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Attributes | |
ACN | 1256458 |
Time | |
Date | 201504 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Person 2 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Hazardous Material Violation Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural FAR |
Narrative:
Radio closeout indicated right/a (regulatory article) f-yes.no notoc (notice to crew) received prior to gate departure. Ca (captain) queried first officer (first officer) who stated there were certain cargo 'exceptions' that allow departure with right/a and no notoc. First officer stated he had recent experience with this situation and end result (via chief pilot conversation) was that there were some shipments of right/a that no longer required a notoc. Radio call made to ops who stated the subject cargo was 'medical shipment; no notoc required.' with apparent confirmation of the first officer's position; departed immediately to maintain schedule.enroute further research in FM-1 section 13 confirmed ca's belief that any right/a required a notoc. Post-flight ca called cargo hotline which confirmed dry ice was the right/a and a computer generated notoc was issued (unknown if it was ever printed). Cargo was unable to determine the right/a location in computer logs.no incidents or other issues concerning this instance.suspect 'human error' by station personnel in not delivering a notoc to flight crew and claiming no notoc was required. I should have stuck with my 28+ years of experience and 'gut feeling' when something isn't 'just right.' my 'gut feeling' was FM-1 'requires a notoc for any right/a' which was later confirmed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Hazmat was loaded as B737 cargo; but the Notice to the Crew (NOTOC) did not accompany it. The ground crew erroneously stated it was medical and the NOTOC was not require. The Captain determined that was incorrect.
Narrative: Radio Closeout indicated R/A (Regulatory Article) F-YES.No NOTOC (Notice to Crew) received prior to gate departure. CA (Captain) queried FO (First Officer) who stated there were certain cargo 'exceptions' that allow departure with R/A and no NOTOC. FO stated he had recent experience with this situation and end result (via chief pilot conversation) was that there were some shipments of R/A that no longer required a NOTOC. Radio call made to Ops who stated the subject cargo was 'medical shipment; no NOTOC required.' With apparent confirmation of the FO's position; departed immediately to maintain schedule.Enroute further research in FM-1 Section 13 confirmed CA's belief that ANY R/A REQUIRED a NOTOC. Post-Flight CA called Cargo Hotline which confirmed Dry Ice was the R/A and a computer generated NOTOC was issued (unknown if it was ever printed). Cargo was unable to determine the R/A location in computer logs.No incidents or other issues concerning this instance.Suspect 'human error' by station personnel in not delivering a NOTOC to flight crew and claiming no NOTOC was required. I should have stuck with my 28+ years of experience and 'gut feeling' when something isn't 'just right.' My 'gut feeling' was FM-1 'requires a NOTOC for ANY R/A' which was later confirmed.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.