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Attributes | |
ACN | 1256598 |
Time | |
Date | 201504 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B777 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach Initial Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | MCP |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 155 Flight Crew Total 30000 Flight Crew Type 4000 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 300 Flight Crew Total 8000 Flight Crew Type 1500 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Flight Deck / Cabin / Aircraft Event Other / Unknown Inflight Event / Encounter CFTT / CFIT Inflight Event / Encounter Unstabilized Approach |
Narrative:
Was left a little high on the glide slope (GS) by ATC when given the clearance heading 190; 2;500 ft; cleared ILS; 180 kts to the FAF. Abeam the airport we were presently flaps 5 approximately 180 kts. I put out a little speed brake to help the descent to 2500 ft so as to get on the GS. We intercepted the localizer a dot or more above the GS. The jet started to level at 2500 ft so I asked the first officer (first officer) to roll the MCP altitude down to 2000 ft. Putting the gear down would have helped but I didn't even think of it. At 2000 still above the GS the jet leveled. I reached over and rolled the MCP down to 00000 and in the same movement rolled it back up to something say that 'zero is allowed'. I told the first officer to set something so I could v-speed down. Got the flaps to 20 and lowered the gear late; 1400-1300 ft; landing checklist. But the speed brake was still out. From here we became totally unstabilized. Relief pilot (international relief officer) right aft seat called-out 'go around.....go around.' he said it twice because I didn't hit the toga switch and only pushed up the throttles so he couldn't see things happening and neither could I. I think I hit the autothrottles button; I did not hit toga so I had very conflicting info in front of me. Somebody yelled 'speed brake' and I pushed the speed brake lever down. That helped a lot! At some point I finally got it climbing with lots of coaching just via raw data. There was late gear retraction; and flap retraction. We kind of stabilized at 1000 ft; my first officer told me he reset both flight directors and got things cleaned up. I flew to 3000; the ma altitude and then flew to 5000 as cleared by ATC. At this point I gave the first officer the jet. We blocked in with 18.3 fuel remaining.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B777 flight crew descended below the glideslope in vertical speed during an ILS approach. At 390 FT flight crew executed a partial go-around after both jumpseated international Relief Officers commanded go-around.
Narrative: Was left a little high on the glide slope (GS) by ATC when given the clearance heading 190; 2;500 FT; cleared ILS; 180 kts to the FAF. Abeam the airport we were presently flaps 5 approximately 180 kts. I put out a little speed brake to help the descent to 2500 FT so as to get on the GS. We intercepted the LOC a dot or more above the GS. The jet started to level at 2500 FT so I asked the First Officer (FO) to roll the MCP ALT down to 2000 FT. Putting the gear down would have helped but I didn't even think of it. At 2000 still above the GS the jet leveled. I reached over and rolled the MCP down to 00000 and in the same movement rolled it back up to something say that 'zero is allowed'. I told the FO to set something so I could V-Speed down. Got the flaps to 20 and lowered the gear late; 1400-1300 FT; landing checklist. BUT the speed brake was still out. From here we became totally unstabilized. Relief pilot (IRO) right aft seat called-out 'go around.....go around.' He said it twice because I didn't hit the TOGA switch and only pushed up the throttles so he couldn't see things happening AND NEITHER COULD I. I think I hit the autothrottles button; I did not hit TOGA so I had very conflicting info in front of me. Somebody yelled 'speed brake' and I pushed the speed brake lever down. That helped a lot! At some point I finally got it climbing with lots of coaching just via raw data. There was late gear retraction; and flap retraction. We kind of stabilized at 1000 FT; my FO told me he reset both Flight Directors and got things cleaned up. I flew to 3000; the MA altitude and then flew to 5000 as cleared by ATC. At this point I gave the FO the jet. We blocked in with 18.3 fuel remaining.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.