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Attributes | |
ACN | 125673 |
Time | |
Date | 198910 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : msy |
State Reference | LA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 17500 msl bound upper : 29000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zhu |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Fighter |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 2140 flight time type : 935 |
ASRS Report | 125673 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter : vfr in imc non adherence : far other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
*Pilot of vintage fgt with no filed flight plan climbed from 17,500' to FL290 to avoid WX. Aircraft has a mode C but reporter says he does not use it because ATC could use the information to file a violation against him. Reporter alleges he would like to work within the system but since it does not accommodate his needs, as he sees them, he operates VFR with no transponder whenever possible. 250 KTS speed restriction below 10,000' also exceeded because the aircraft is 'so clean' and since the military can use higher speeds reporter believes this proves it is safe and the restriction should be eliminated.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GA PLT IN VINTAGE FGT ENTERED PCA WITHOUT CLRNC. DID NOT USE MODE C BECAUSE ATC WOULD KNOW WHERE HE WAS OPERATING THEN VIOLATED SPEED RESTRICTION BELOW 10,000' DURING DESCENT.
Narrative: *PLT OF VINTAGE FGT WITH NO FILED FLT PLAN CLIMBED FROM 17,500' TO FL290 TO AVOID WX. ACFT HAS A MODE C BUT REPORTER SAYS HE DOES NOT USE IT BECAUSE ATC COULD USE THE INFO TO FILE A VIOLATION AGAINST HIM. REPORTER ALLEGES HE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITHIN THE SYSTEM BUT SINCE IT DOES NOT ACCOMMODATE HIS NEEDS, AS HE SEES THEM, HE OPERATES VFR WITH NO XPONDER WHENEVER POSSIBLE. 250 KTS SPEED RESTRICTION BELOW 10,000' ALSO EXCEEDED BECAUSE THE ACFT IS 'SO CLEAN' AND SINCE THE MIL CAN USE HIGHER SPEEDS REPORTER BELIEVES THIS PROVES IT IS SAFE AND THE RESTRICTION SHOULD BE ELIMINATED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.