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Flight attendant-18 instructor reports his student wingman losing sight of lead in IMC and falling well back and below; in class a airspace; without advising lead; ATC or squawking altitude.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1266200 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201505 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | NLC.Airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | F/A 18 Hornet/Super Hornet |
| Flight Phase | Cruise |
| Route In Use | Direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Instructor Single Pilot |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 40 Flight Crew Total 1200 Flight Crew Type 1000 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Airspace Violation All Types Deviation - Procedural FAR Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
During IMC climb from FL200 to FL300; student wingman lost sight and fell into trail from his instructor lead. He used his radar to maintain separation with his lead; however; due to poor air work; he allowed himself to get slow and his separation continued to open. Eventually his separation grew as great as 24 miles and his altitude was 5;000 feet below his lead. He was not squawking and did not inform his lead or oakland center of the deviation. When the flight lead was given a descent to 16;000 feet; the wingman notified his lead of the error. The flight lead directed the wingman to descend VMC expeditiously to clear out of class a airspace; while using his air-to-air radar to clear his flight path. The flight rejoined VFR at 16;500 feet. No errors were committed by ATC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FA-18 Instructor reports his student wingman losing sight of lead in IMC and falling well back and below; in Class A airspace; without advising lead; ATC or squawking altitude.
Narrative: During IMC climb from FL200 to FL300; student wingman lost sight and fell into trail from his instructor lead. He used his radar to maintain separation with his lead; however; due to poor air work; he allowed himself to get slow and his separation continued to open. Eventually his separation grew as great as 24 miles and his altitude was 5;000 feet below his lead. He was not squawking and did not inform his lead or Oakland Center of the deviation. When the flight lead was given a descent to 16;000 feet; the wingman notified his lead of the error. The flight lead directed the wingman to descend VMC expeditiously to clear out of Class A airspace; while using his air-to-air radar to clear his flight path. The flight rejoined VFR at 16;500 feet. No errors were committed by ATC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.