CFI enters TCA without clearance while involved in training.

Attributes
ACN	126998
Time
Date	198911
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : djb airport : cle
State Reference	OH
Altitude	msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 3100
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : cle
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear
Flight Phase	cruise other cruise other
Route In Use	arrival other
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 380 flight time type : 355
ASRS Report	126998
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : private
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : exited penetrated airspace none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

The transgression occurred as we flew eastbound along the shoreline of lake erie preparing to return to hopkins. The arrival was similar to any VFR arrival from the west. Copy ATIS and contact approach near the 'avon stacks' (an inbound reporting point) for a clearance to enter the TCA. I told the student to contact approach and tell them the usual where we are, who we are, what we want to do. Since he had the 'foggles' on I told him to say we're 5 southwest of the stacks. My eyes then glanced at the altimeter. It hit me immediately (3100 MSL) that I had 'busted' the TCA. I then took the controls, reduced power and descended to 2500 MSL (the altitude I usually enter under the TCA before calling approach over the avon stacks). The flight ended normally.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CFI ENTERS TCA WITHOUT CLRNC WHILE INVOLVED IN TRAINING.

Narrative: THE TRANSGRESSION OCCURRED AS WE FLEW EBND ALONG THE SHORELINE OF LAKE ERIE PREPARING TO RETURN TO HOPKINS. THE ARRIVAL WAS SIMILAR TO ANY VFR ARRIVAL FROM THE WEST. COPY ATIS AND CONTACT APCH NEAR THE 'AVON STACKS' (AN INBND REPORTING POINT) FOR A CLRNC TO ENTER THE TCA. I TOLD THE STUDENT TO CONTACT APCH AND TELL THEM THE USUAL WHERE WE ARE, WHO WE ARE, WHAT WE WANT TO DO. SINCE HE HAD THE 'FOGGLES' ON I TOLD HIM TO SAY WE'RE 5 SW OF THE STACKS. MY EYES THEN GLANCED AT THE ALTIMETER. IT HIT ME IMMEDIATELY (3100 MSL) THAT I HAD 'BUSTED' THE TCA. I THEN TOOK THE CONTROLS, REDUCED POWER AND DESCENDED TO 2500 MSL (THE ALT I USUALLY ENTER UNDER THE TCA BEFORE CALLING APCH OVER THE AVON STACKS). THE FLT ENDED NORMALLY.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.