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Medium large transport flight was being vectored for ILS 33 at bwi. Flight instruments showed inoperative ILS. Flight crew had FMC set up for ILS 28.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 127203 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198910 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : bwi |
| State Reference | MD |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : bwi |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 135 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 1600 |
| ASRS Report | 127203 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Upon arrival to bwi on scheduled air carrier flight, aircraft checked in with arrival radar with ATIS information, and commenced arrival vectors for the approach to bwi. Various course changes and dscnts had us positioned east of the airport and we had set up our instruments for ILS 28, as stated on ATIS. When given approach clearance, our localizer indication gave us flags and very faint identify on runway 28 ILS. We were vectored back around for another approach and again had no localizer signals with the needles deflected off scale left. Approach advised us to shoot a visibility approach to the airport as we had crossed the localizer again and had 'equipment failures onboard.' we circled the field, climbing to 3000' MSL to avoid light aircraft traffic, and took interval on another aircraft for the visibility to runway 33L at bwi. The controller had been vectoring us for the ILS 33L while we were briefed and set up on ILS 28 per ATIS. The controller never mentioned the runway, to my knowledge, and we were dangerously lax in communicating with each other. New ATIS broadcast while we were on approach advised 'ILS approachs to 28 and 33L departing 28.' I will verify runway/approach now and not assume I'm being vectored to the ATIS runway!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG FLT WAS BEING VECTORED FOR ILS 33 AT BWI. FLT INSTRUMENTS SHOWED INOPERATIVE ILS. FLT CREW HAD FMC SET UP FOR ILS 28.
Narrative: UPON ARR TO BWI ON SCHEDULED ACR FLT, ACFT CHKED IN WITH ARR RADAR WITH ATIS INFO, AND COMMENCED ARR VECTORS FOR THE APCH TO BWI. VARIOUS COURSE CHANGES AND DSCNTS HAD US POSITIONED E OF THE ARPT AND WE HAD SET UP OUR INSTRUMENTS FOR ILS 28, AS STATED ON ATIS. WHEN GIVEN APCH CLRNC, OUR LOC INDICATION GAVE US FLAGS AND VERY FAINT IDENT ON RWY 28 ILS. WE WERE VECTORED BACK AROUND FOR ANOTHER APCH AND AGAIN HAD NO LOC SIGNALS WITH THE NEEDLES DEFLECTED OFF SCALE LEFT. APCH ADVISED US TO SHOOT A VIS APCH TO THE ARPT AS WE HAD CROSSED THE LOC AGAIN AND HAD 'EQUIP FAILURES ONBOARD.' WE CIRCLED THE FIELD, CLBING TO 3000' MSL TO AVOID LIGHT ACFT TFC, AND TOOK INTERVAL ON ANOTHER ACFT FOR THE VIS TO RWY 33L AT BWI. THE CTLR HAD BEEN VECTORING US FOR THE ILS 33L WHILE WE WERE BRIEFED AND SET UP ON ILS 28 PER ATIS. THE CTLR NEVER MENTIONED THE RWY, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AND WE WERE DANGEROUSLY LAX IN COMMUNICATING WITH EACH OTHER. NEW ATIS BROADCAST WHILE WE WERE ON APCH ADVISED 'ILS APCHS TO 28 AND 33L DEPARTING 28.' I WILL VERIFY RWY/APCH NOW AND NOT ASSUME I'M BEING VECTORED TO THE ATIS RWY!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.