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Attributes | |
ACN | 1275733 |
Time | |
Date | 201507 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | FO |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B777 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach Landing |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Relief Pilot Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Inflight Event / Encounter Unstabilized Approach |
Narrative:
We were at 2000 ft on vectors. First officer was pilot flying. Approach control was vectoring us to join the localizer. They vectored us in too close to the final approach fix; and did not descend us in time to capture the glide slope. The first officer attempted to accelerate his descent to capture the glideslope from above; but at 1000 ft AGL we were full scale deflection on the glideslope; with the runway in sight. As international relief officer; I called '1000 ft full scale deflection.' the captain responded 'it's a visual' and the first officer continued the approach. At 500 ft AGL we remained full scale deflection on the glideslope; PAPI all white; and vertical descent speed of 1700 FPM. The first officer called 'I'm going around' and began to level off and move the throttles forward. The captain announced 'I have the controls' and instead of executing the missed approach procedure; he then retarded the throttles; and continued the descent. He managed to put the plane down in the touchdown zone and exit before the end of the runway.ATC failed to provide adequate vectors to capture the localizer and glideslope; using normal maneuvers. The approach never met stabilized criteria. The captain elected to continue the landing when the first officer called the go around.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: On visual approach to a foreign airport with the First Officer flying; the aircraft was vectored in high and close such that the stabilized approach criteria was not met at 500 FT AGL. The Captain took the aircraft and elected to land.
Narrative: We were at 2000 FT on vectors. F/O was pilot flying. Approach control was vectoring us to join the localizer. They vectored us in too close to the final approach fix; and did not descend us in time to capture the glide slope. The F/O attempted to accelerate his descent to capture the glideslope from above; but at 1000 FT AGL we were full scale deflection on the glideslope; with the runway in sight. As IRO; I called '1000 FT full scale deflection.' the Captain responded 'it's a visual' and the F/O continued the approach. At 500 FT AGL we remained full scale deflection on the glideslope; PAPI all white; and vertical descent speed of 1700 FPM. The first officer called 'I'm going around' and began to level off and move the throttles forward. The captain announced 'I have the controls' and instead of executing the missed approach procedure; he then retarded the throttles; and continued the descent. He managed to put the plane down in the touchdown zone and exit before the end of the runway.ATC failed to provide adequate vectors to capture the localizer and glideslope; using normal maneuvers. The approach never met stabilized criteria. The Captain elected to continue the landing when the F/O called the go around.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.