Small aircraft, doing primary training, got too close to ground during simulated forced landing.

Attributes
ACN	127600
Time
Date	198911
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : sna
State Reference	CA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 400 agl bound upper : 500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear
Flight Phase	cruise other landing : go around other
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 500
ASRS Report	127600
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : student
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other other : unspecified
Resolutory Action	flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

I was giving dual instruction and the student was doing s-turns across a road at 1000' AGL west of the santa ana river. We then went over the river which is dry -- a perfect area for forced lndgs -- and practiced a forced landing and forward and sideslips. On the first officer-around from the forced landing the student inadvertently retracted all the flaps and we settled to within 400' of the ground before establishing the climbout. We then started a slow climb to 1000' AGL in order to move to the practice area that is off the shoreline over the ocean. On climbout I noticed a police helicopter following at our 7 O'clock position. While the areas to each side of the river, over 1 mi, are congested, the area we were over is totally unsettled and unpopulated and has been used for flight training for over 40 yrs by local instructors. We violated no rules that I am aware of but because of the helicopter, I am sending this report in as a precaution.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: SMA, DOING PRIMARY TRAINING, GOT TOO CLOSE TO GND DURING SIMULATED FORCED LNDG.

Narrative: I WAS GIVING DUAL INSTRUCTION AND THE STUDENT WAS DOING S-TURNS ACROSS A ROAD AT 1000' AGL W OF THE SANTA ANA RIVER. WE THEN WENT OVER THE RIVER WHICH IS DRY -- A PERFECT AREA FOR FORCED LNDGS -- AND PRACTICED A FORCED LNDG AND FORWARD AND SIDESLIPS. ON THE FO-AROUND FROM THE FORCED LNDG THE STUDENT INADVERTENTLY RETRACTED ALL THE FLAPS AND WE SETTLED TO WITHIN 400' OF THE GND BEFORE ESTABLISHING THE CLIMBOUT. WE THEN STARTED A SLOW CLIMB TO 1000' AGL IN ORDER TO MOVE TO THE PRACTICE AREA THAT IS OFF THE SHORELINE OVER THE OCEAN. ON CLIMBOUT I NOTICED A POLICE HELI FOLLOWING AT OUR 7 O'CLOCK POSITION. WHILE THE AREAS TO EACH SIDE OF THE RIVER, OVER 1 MI, ARE CONGESTED, THE AREA WE WERE OVER IS TOTALLY UNSETTLED AND UNPOPULATED AND HAS BEEN USED FOR FLT TRAINING FOR OVER 40 YRS BY LCL INSTRUCTORS. WE VIOLATED NO RULES THAT I AM AWARE OF BUT BECAUSE OF THE HELI, I AM SENDING THIS REPORT IN AS A PRECAUTION.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.