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Attributes | |
ACN | 1277443 |
Time | |
Date | 201507 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.TRACON |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft High Wing 1 Eng Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft High Wing 1 Eng Retractable Gear |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Departure Instructor Approach |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (mon) 43 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
I was training a developmental whom I have never trained before in the radar room. Seeing that I have never trained them; I was unaware of their ability and technique. Aircraft X departed an airport in the southern portion of our airspace; flying northbound. The developmental put the aircraft on a 340 heading to keep the aircraft clear of the departure area. Aircraft Y departed [a nearby airport] VFR to perform sky dive operations above the bravo airspace. As aircraft X neared aircraft Y; aircraft Y was in a westbound heading; climbing away from aircraft X.letting the situation go as far as I saw it could without stepping in; I took over the frequency and advised aircraft Y to continue a VFR climb to the west and called the traffic (at this time they were about 2 NM separated and divergence was also maintained). I received no read back from aircraft Y and called to them again telling to them fly westbound. After no response again; I called the traffic to aircraft X. At this time; aircraft Y had continued their counterclockwise turn and ended up closing in on aircraft X. Aircraft X called the traffic and I advised him to maintain visual separation.satellite should have been split out during this session. There was an airshow just north of our airspace which added greatly to the complexity; especially to a developmental who has had just a couple of hours of satellite training. Also at this trainee's stage in training; satellite should only be trained stand alone. Parachute operations should not be occurring in bravo airspace; especially mere miles into the departure area of a level 9 airport.I shouldn't have been training the individual. I had been out of work on [personal leave]. I came in expecting to maintain currency and instead was not only given a 9 hour turnaround; but was instructed to train a development whom I have had no experience with.the supervisor/controller in charge had been on position for approximately 4 hours at the time of the event due to lack of controller in charge's in the facility. Had they had a non-fatigued mind; they would have had the opportunity to aid in preventing the event.due to lack of controller in charge's in the facility; I have a problem maintaining currency. The majority of the time I am in the operations I am sitting 'in charge;' and due to this have lost proficiency.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TRACON Controller reports of a loss of separation between two aircraft. Controller was training a Developmental that he was unfamiliar with and let the situation go too far. Instructor took over but aircraft did not respond timely.
Narrative: I was training a developmental whom I have never trained before in the radar room. Seeing that I have never trained them; I was unaware of their ability and technique. Aircraft X departed an airport in the southern portion of our airspace; flying northbound. The developmental put the aircraft on a 340 heading to keep the aircraft clear of the departure area. Aircraft Y departed [a nearby airport] VFR to perform sky dive operations above the Bravo airspace. As Aircraft X neared Aircraft Y; Aircraft Y was in a westbound heading; climbing away from Aircraft X.Letting the situation go as far as I saw it could without stepping in; I took over the frequency and advised Aircraft Y to continue a VFR climb to the West and called the traffic (at this time they were about 2 NM separated and divergence was also maintained). I received no read back from Aircraft Y and called to them again telling to them fly westbound. After no response again; I called the traffic to Aircraft X. At this time; Aircraft Y had continued their counterclockwise turn and ended up closing in on Aircraft X. Aircraft X called the traffic and I advised him to maintain visual separation.Satellite should have been split out during this session. There was an airshow just north of our airspace which added greatly to the complexity; especially to a developmental who has had just a couple of hours of satellite training. Also at this trainee's stage in training; satellite should only be trained stand alone. Parachute operations should not be occurring in Bravo airspace; especially mere miles into the departure area of a level 9 airport.I shouldn't have been training the individual. I had been out of work on [personal leave]. I came in expecting to maintain currency and instead was not only given a 9 hour turnaround; but was instructed to train a development whom I have had no experience with.The Supervisor/CIC had been on position for approximately 4 hours at the time of the event due to lack of CIC's in the facility. Had they had a non-fatigued mind; they would have had the opportunity to aid in preventing the event.Due to lack of CIC's in the facility; I have a problem maintaining currency. The majority of the time I am in the operations I am sitting 'in charge;' and due to this have lost proficiency.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.