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Attributes | |
ACN | 127991 |
Time | |
Date | 198911 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dca |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 127991 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
A prisoner with 2 armed guards was boarded. We requested that the handcuffs be removed. One guard said, 'we consider him to be dangerous.' I checked with my operations manual which says we can only take 'prisoners not declared dangerous;' however, I remembered discussions taking place that our new parent company did accept dangerous prisoners, and that we 'probably would too,' so I asked on the radio for dca operations to check with our dispatchers to see if we could accept 'dangerous prisoners.' they came back and said 'your dispatcher says 'yes'.' (my first officer heard this whole conversation on his radio). So, we took all 3, and the handcuffs stayed on the prisoner. The next day I checked with our flight department and they knew nothing about 'dangerous prisoners.' now I'm mad at myself for not insisting on a hard copy from dispatch, and mad and them (dca-sby) for not giving me accurate information. Next time a hard copy of any variations from the operations manual.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF MDT ACR AGREED TO TRANSPORT A DANGEROUS PRISONER IN HANDCUFFS.
Narrative: A PRISONER WITH 2 ARMED GUARDS WAS BOARDED. WE REQUESTED THAT THE HANDCUFFS BE REMOVED. ONE GUARD SAID, 'WE CONSIDER HIM TO BE DANGEROUS.' I CHKED WITH MY OPS MANUAL WHICH SAYS WE CAN ONLY TAKE 'PRISONERS NOT DECLARED DANGEROUS;' HOWEVER, I REMEMBERED DISCUSSIONS TAKING PLACE THAT OUR NEW PARENT COMPANY DID ACCEPT DANGEROUS PRISONERS, AND THAT WE 'PROBABLY WOULD TOO,' SO I ASKED ON THE RADIO FOR DCA OPS TO CHK WITH OUR DISPATCHERS TO SEE IF WE COULD ACCEPT 'DANGEROUS PRISONERS.' THEY CAME BACK AND SAID 'YOUR DISPATCHER SAYS 'YES'.' (MY F/O HEARD THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION ON HIS RADIO). SO, WE TOOK ALL 3, AND THE HANDCUFFS STAYED ON THE PRISONER. THE NEXT DAY I CHKED WITH OUR FLT DEPT AND THEY KNEW NOTHING ABOUT 'DANGEROUS PRISONERS.' NOW I'M MAD AT MYSELF FOR NOT INSISTING ON A HARD COPY FROM DISPATCH, AND MAD AND THEM (DCA-SBY) FOR NOT GIVING ME ACCURATE INFO. NEXT TIME A HARD COPY OF ANY VARIATIONS FROM THE OPS MANUAL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.