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Attributes | |
ACN | 1285378 |
Time | |
Date | 201508 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | LAX.Airport |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Widebody Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Flight Phase | Takeoff |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 144 Flight Crew Total 17848 Flight Crew Type 614 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Flying First Officer |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 184 Flight Crew Total 7370 Flight Crew Type 884 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Ground Conflict Less Severe Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Inflight Event / Encounter Unstabilized Approach |
Narrative:
Captain was pilot monitoring. First officer (first officer) was pilot flying. First officer was being vectored downwind for a visual approach to lax runway 24L. ATC turned us onto base leg sooner than expected. Aircraft energy was high at that point and first officer made inputs to manage speed and descent. At 1;500 feet things seemed manageable as the aircraft was decelerating and descending as desired. Once joining the final approach course we fell behind the energy management of the aircraft. Captain prompted first officer to lower the landing gear which the first officer responded that he agreed that was a good idea. The landing gear was lowered at that time. Once the landing gear was down; aircraft speed began to slow more quickly and first officer called for flaps as speed allowed. At this time we became aware that tower control was placing an aircraft into position on our landing runway. It became apparent that this was beginning to become a tight fit for us as we continued slow and to configure to a landing state/condition. At 500 feet; the captain called go-around. However; the aircraft on our landing runway received their takeoff clearance and began to roll just prior to the go-around call by the captain. When the captain stated go-around the captain also said that if we execute a go-around at this point; we would become an immediate conflict with the aircraft now taking off on our landing runway. The captain decided under those circumstances it was a safer course of action to continue the approach and landing. The first officer continued and landed the aircraft on runway 24L.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: This flight crew reported that; due to an early turn toward the airport; the approach exceeded the parameters for a stable approach. However; due to a potential conflict with a departing aircraft on the same runway; both pilots determined that continuing the approach and landing was a better course of action than a go-around.
Narrative: Captain was Pilot Monitoring. First Officer (FO) was Pilot Flying. FO was being vectored downwind for a visual approach to LAX Runway 24L. ATC turned us onto Base leg sooner than expected. Aircraft energy was high at that point and FO made inputs to manage speed and descent. At 1;500 feet things seemed manageable as the aircraft was decelerating and descending as desired. Once joining the final approach course we fell behind the energy management of the aircraft. Captain prompted FO to lower the Landing Gear which the FO responded that he agreed that was a good idea. The landing gear was lowered at that time. Once the landing gear was down; aircraft speed began to slow more quickly and FO called for flaps as speed allowed. At this time we became aware that Tower Control was placing an aircraft into position on our landing runway. It became apparent that this was beginning to become a tight fit for us as we continued slow and to configure to a landing state/condition. At 500 feet; the Captain called Go-around. However; the aircraft on our landing runway received their Takeoff clearance and began to roll just prior to the go-around call by the Captain. When the Captain stated Go-around the Captain also said that if we execute a Go-around at this point; we would become an immediate conflict with the aircraft now taking off on our landing runway. The Captain decided under those circumstances it was a safer course of action to continue the approach and landing. The FO continued and landed the aircraft on runway 24L.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.