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Attributes | |
ACN | 1287126 |
Time | |
Date | 201508 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | GEG.Airport |
State Reference | WA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Route In Use | Direct Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | Autopilot |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Inflight Event / Encounter Unstabilized Approach |
Narrative:
Arriving at geg; the ATIS was bravo; calm wind; 10sm; few 12000; 27/5; 2994; visual runway 21. Since we were filed direct to geg direct geg airport; I asked the first officer if he would like to request runway 3 for arrival since the wind was calm; there is terrain in the area; it was a night approach; and a straight in visual backed up with an ILS was (in my opinion) the safest course of action. He thought that was a good idea; and we briefed it; including the notes on the cci page referencing visual approaches to geg at night. I asked seattle center if they could call ahead and request runway 3 for us; and the controller said we'd have plenty of time to request that with approach. We contacted spokane approach; made the request; and it was granted; and they requested to keep max forward speed as long as possible. We commenced the approach and around the time we should have joined the localizer; the autopilot grabbed a localizer and a glideslope; and the aircraft pitched and rolled a bit. I thought perhaps it was just a 'tough' capture; but it became clear that we had captured something other than the proper navigational signals. At this point; we got behind on configuring while trying to figure out what the aircraft was doing; the first officer (PF) disconnected the ap and started hand flying; but we had drifted high and weren't in position to make a stabilized approach; so I called a go around. That went fine; we ran a climb; descent; and approach check; and took vectors for another visual to runway 3. This time the exact same thing happened (and this time much more aggressively - the aircraft pitched up and climbed probably 300-400 feet and banked back and forth a couple times); and I was pretty confused about why; but we were way ahead of the aircraft and properly configured; so the first officer (PF) again disconnected the ap and hand flew the approach. Shortly after that; I heard spokane approach tell an arrival that they 'had just switched the localizer around.' on the ground; I looked at the approaches to runways 3 and 21; and noticed that they have the same frequency (111.1) but different identifiers (iolj & igeg). It was then obvious what had happened.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: On a night visual approach to Runway 3 at GEG; the crew was confused by the erratic localizer and glideslope indications which was attributed to the 'switching around' of the localizer.
Narrative: Arriving at GEG; the ATIS was Bravo; Calm wind; 10sm; Few 12000; 27/5; 2994; Visual runway 21. Since we were filed direct to GEG direct GEG airport; I asked the FO if he would like to request runway 3 for arrival since the wind was calm; there is terrain in the area; it was a night approach; and a straight in visual backed up with an ILS was (in my opinion) the safest course of action. He thought that was a good idea; and we briefed it; including the notes on the CCI page referencing visual approaches to GEG at night. I asked Seattle Center if they could call ahead and request runway 3 for us; and the controller said we'd have plenty of time to request that with approach. We contacted Spokane Approach; made the request; and it was granted; and they requested to keep max forward speed as long as possible. We commenced the approach and around the time we should have joined the localizer; the autopilot grabbed a localizer and a glideslope; and the aircraft pitched and rolled a bit. I thought perhaps it was just a 'tough' capture; but it became clear that we had captured something other than the proper navigational signals. At this point; we got behind on configuring while trying to figure out what the aircraft was doing; the FO (PF) disconnected the AP and started hand flying; but we had drifted high and weren't in position to make a stabilized approach; so I called a go around. That went fine; we ran a climb; descent; and approach check; and took vectors for another visual to runway 3. this time the exact same thing happened (and this time much more aggressively - the aircraft pitched up and climbed probably 300-400 feet and banked back and forth a couple times); and I was pretty confused about why; but we were way ahead of the aircraft and properly configured; so the FO (PF) again disconnected the AP and hand flew the approach. Shortly after that; I heard Spokane Approach tell an arrival that they 'had just switched the localizer around.' On the ground; I looked at the approaches to runways 3 and 21; and noticed that they have the same frequency (111.1) but different identifiers (IOLJ & IGEG). It was then obvious what had happened.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.