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Attributes | |
ACN | 128914 |
Time | |
Date | 198911 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz |
State Reference | US |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 4186 flight time type : 1650 |
ASRS Report | 128914 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On 11/xx/89, the cockpit crew dutied out at X+:03 rather than X+:00. The next morning we dutied in X+8:00. We were required to have 8 hours minimum rest. As a result we showed 7 hours and 57 mins rest (or duty free time). We should not have duties the next day in before X+8:03. This oversight of 3 mins was not caught until we had duties out the next day (afternoon of 11/xy/89). I think one of the biggest contributing factors to this problem is the 'loop hole' in the FAA regulations allowing a reduced rest of 8 hours. I think this is one problem that the FAA needs to address. At our company (a 135 commuter) this is a standard practice in several of their trips.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: REPORTER BELIEVES HE VIOLATED THE PROVISIONS OF MINIMUM REST PERIOD BETWEEN FLTS.
Narrative: ON 11/XX/89, THE COCKPIT CREW DUTIED OUT AT X+:03 RATHER THAN X+:00. THE NEXT MORNING WE DUTIED IN X+8:00. WE WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE 8 HRS MINIMUM REST. AS A RESULT WE SHOWED 7 HRS AND 57 MINS REST (OR DUTY FREE TIME). WE SHOULD NOT HAVE DUTIES THE NEXT DAY IN BEFORE X+8:03. THIS OVERSIGHT OF 3 MINS WAS NOT CAUGHT UNTIL WE HAD DUTIES OUT THE NEXT DAY (AFTERNOON OF 11/XY/89). I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONTRIBUTING FACTORS TO THIS PROBLEM IS THE 'LOOP HOLE' IN THE FAA REGS ALLOWING A REDUCED REST OF 8 HRS. I THINK THIS IS ONE PROBLEM THAT THE FAA NEEDS TO ADDRESS. AT OUR COMPANY (A 135 COMMUTER) THIS IS A STANDARD PRACTICE IN SEVERAL OF THEIR TRIPS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.