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Attributes | |
ACN | 130863 |
Time | |
Date | 198912 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : hnl |
State Reference | HI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 31000 msl bound upper : 35000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : pacific enroute : other oceanic enroute airway : r464 enroute other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 12500 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 130863 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : declared emergency flight crew : exited adverse environment |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Navigational Facility |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Due to severe turbulence and difficulty in controling the aircraft at FL350, a descent was made prior to receiving ATC clearance. Although I had requested a descent clearance some 5 mins prior to this incident, communications between commercial radio, ATC and the aircraft are cumbersome and time consuming. I felt the safety of the aircraft and those on board was somewhat in jeopardy, and thus initiated this descent. The aircraft was turned off the arwy and a call made to all stations on 121.5. Additionally a call was made to sfo advising them of our intentions. During the process of descending a clearance to FL310 was received from ATC. More expeditious clrncs and better communications would be a great help in preventing this type of occurrence.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR WDB ENCOUNTERS SEVERE TURBULENCE ENROUTE HAWAII AND IS FORCED TO LEAVE ALT AND TRACK PRIOR TO RECEIVING ATC CLRNC.
Narrative: DUE TO SEVERE TURB AND DIFFICULTY IN CTLING THE ACFT AT FL350, A DSCNT WAS MADE PRIOR TO RECEIVING ATC CLRNC. ALTHOUGH I HAD REQUESTED A DSCNT CLRNC SOME 5 MINS PRIOR TO THIS INCIDENT, COMS BTWN COMMERCIAL RADIO, ATC AND THE ACFT ARE CUMBERSOME AND TIME CONSUMING. I FELT THE SAFETY OF THE ACFT AND THOSE ON BOARD WAS SOMEWHAT IN JEOPARDY, AND THUS INITIATED THIS DSCNT. THE ACFT WAS TURNED OFF THE ARWY AND A CALL MADE TO ALL STATIONS ON 121.5. ADDITIONALLY A CALL WAS MADE TO SFO ADVISING THEM OF OUR INTENTIONS. DURING THE PROCESS OF DSNDING A CLRNC TO FL310 WAS RECEIVED FROM ATC. MORE EXPEDITIOUS CLRNCS AND BETTER COMS WOULD BE A GREAT HELP IN PREVENTING THIS TYPE OF OCCURRENCE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.