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Attributes | |
ACN | 1309423 |
Time | |
Date | 201511 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | JFK.Airport |
State Reference | NY |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Light Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Route In Use | SID KENNEDY2 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
After an exhausting morning we arrived [at] jfk for a passenger trip to ZZZ. The FMS would not accept the pre departure clearance so I did the clearance via radio with ATC. We were given the departure. I verified the clearance twice with ATC. The FMS was loaded both crew verified the clearance. After takeoff we were following the FMS for the departure; after cri we were planning on the right turn to neion intersection; that's when ATC questions our turn and he immediately assigned us a south bound heading. ATC gave us a telephone number to call after we arrive at ZZZ. We complied after landing at ZZZ. There was no threat to persons or property during this event. ATC needs to be more specific during the clearance; he should have stated radar vectors after a heading off of cri. Or there needs to be a waypoint after cri. The climb and heading of is stated further down the SID but we missed it. (Possible fatigue onset) the heading needs to be more obvious. It was also communicated to the pilot in command by ATC personnel via the phone conversation that this departure has also been causing 'problems' for the airlines. This incident seems to happen once or twice a week says ATC. The crew fatigued upon reaching ZZZ.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: An aircraft on a SID proceeded to a point on their flight plan after the SID transition. The aircraft are supposed to stay on the SID heading expecting radar vectors. This is not indicated clearly on the SID and causes confusion for aircraft on a regular basis.
Narrative: After an exhausting morning we arrived [at] JFK for a passenger trip to ZZZ. The FMS would not accept the pre departure clearance so I did the clearance via radio with ATC. We were given the departure. I verified the clearance twice with ATC. The FMS was loaded both crew verified the clearance. After takeoff we were following the FMS for the departure; after CRI we were planning on the right turn to NEION intersection; that's when ATC questions our turn and he immediately assigned us a south bound heading. ATC gave us a telephone number to call after we arrive at ZZZ. We complied after landing at ZZZ. There was no threat to persons or property during this event. ATC needs to be more specific during the clearance; he should have stated radar vectors after a heading off of CRI. Or there needs to be a waypoint after CRI. The climb and heading of is stated further down the SID but we missed it. (Possible fatigue onset) the heading needs to be more obvious. It was also communicated to the pilot in command by ATC personnel via the phone conversation that this departure has also been causing 'problems' for the airlines. This incident seems to happen once or twice a week says ATC. The crew fatigued upon reaching ZZZ.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.