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Pilot reported non-standard traffic pattern procedure by other aircraft at two airports.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1315667 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201512 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | Takeoff |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Single Pilot |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Departing uncontrolled [airport X] behind a flight of two aircraft. As taking off; cessna inbound calls coming in from south to enter an upwind for the runway giving no distance out. This is not our standard entry. As I became airborne; they announced they were upwind. I looked over and saw the cessna. I was a bit faster and climbing. I announced to the cessna I had them in sight. And would turn to depart the pattern and pass above and behind them. The pilot said they did not see me on the runway and was wondering what they should do. It was never a conflict or dangerous situation; but only because I saw the other plane and heard the non-standard upwind entry. I turned well above and behind them. Aircraft at this airport cross midfield to enter not upwind and turn into the traffic pattern (which already had several planes doing closed traffic.) similar issue at the next airport [;airport Y;] we approached doing a practice ILS. Transitioning traffic said they had traffic in the pattern in sight and would remain clear; but then did not alter heading or altitude. Never a conflict issue; as we climbed above them by 500 feet and passed well behind them; but another example of people treating an airport pattern as if they were the only plane flying.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Pilot reported non-standard traffic pattern procedure by other aircraft at two airports.
Narrative: Departing uncontrolled [airport X] behind a flight of two aircraft. As taking off; Cessna inbound calls coming in from South to enter an Upwind for the runway giving no distance out. This is not our standard entry. As I became airborne; they announced they were upwind. I looked over and saw the Cessna. I was a bit faster and climbing. I announced to the Cessna I had them in sight. And would turn to depart the pattern and pass above and behind them. The pilot said they did not see me on the runway and was wondering what they should do. It was never a conflict or dangerous situation; but only because I saw the other plane and heard the non-standard upwind entry. I turned well above and behind them. Aircraft at this airport cross midfield to enter not upwind and turn into the traffic pattern (which already had several planes doing closed traffic.) Similar issue at the next airport [;airport Y;] we approached doing a practice ILS. Transitioning traffic said they had traffic in the pattern in sight and would remain clear; but then did not alter heading or altitude. Never a conflict issue; as we climbed above them by 500 feet and passed well behind them; but another example of people treating an airport pattern as if they were the only plane flying.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.