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Air carrier pilot cites possibility of runway incrusion due to chart presentation not matching airport ramp taxiway layout. Laims area between ramp and taxiway was not open space, but apparently filled in, therby allowing aircraft to interpret or misidentify runway and think it was the taxiway charlie.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 131623 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198912 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : orf |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 120 |
| ASRS Report | 131623 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other other |
| Situations | |
| Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
At orf (norfolk intersection) before sunrise, pushed back from south side of northernmost terminal and taxied straight east expecting to see a definite break between ramp and taxiway C. I almost entered runway 23-5 at taxiway G. (Ground control told us to hold before entering the runway.) clearance was taxi to runway 5. It appears that airport depiction on chart 11-1 orf dated 3/31/89 is incorrect, as it shows a break between ramp and taxiway C in the G taxiway area. In reality, I believe it is all filled in an all ramp from the terminal area to the northeast southwest parallel taxiway C.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR PLT CITES POSSIBILITY OF RWY INCRUSION DUE TO CHART PRESENTATION NOT MATCHING ARPT RAMP TXWY LAYOUT. LAIMS AREA BETWEEN RAMP AND TXWY WAS NOT OPEN SPACE, BUT APPARENTLY FILLED IN, THERBY ALLOWING ACFT TO INTERPRET OR MISIDENTIFY RWY AND THINK IT WAS THE TXWY CHARLIE.
Narrative: AT ORF (NORFOLK INTXN) BEFORE SUNRISE, PUSHED BACK FROM S SIDE OF NORTHERNMOST TERMINAL AND TAXIED STRAIGHT E EXPECTING TO SEE A DEFINITE BREAK BTWN RAMP AND TXWY C. I ALMOST ENTERED RWY 23-5 AT TXWY G. (GND CTL TOLD US TO HOLD BEFORE ENTERING THE RWY.) CLRNC WAS TAXI TO RWY 5. IT APPEARS THAT ARPT DEPICTION ON CHART 11-1 ORF DATED 3/31/89 IS INCORRECT, AS IT SHOWS A BREAK BTWN RAMP AND TXWY C IN THE G TXWY AREA. IN REALITY, I BELIEVE IT IS ALL FILLED IN AN ALL RAMP FROM THE TERMINAL AREA TO THE NE SW PARALLEL TXWY C.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.