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Attributes | |
ACN | 1317413 |
Time | |
Date | 201512 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | BUY.Airport |
State Reference | NC |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
Person 1 | |
Function | Instructor Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 150 Flight Crew Total 1700 Flight Crew Type 400 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Miss Distance | Horizontal 1000 Vertical 100 |
Narrative:
We were on the 45 degree entry to the left downwind for runway 24. We made radio calls on the CTAF frequency. [Another aircraft] announced that he departed runway 24; then crosswind. We announced on the 45 then downwind. We monitored the [other] pilot's position and saw that he was coming straight towards us from the left and a little above us. I asked the pilot if he saw us and he said no. I told him that we were at his 12 o'clock low and he then said he did see us; and he made a climbing turn to the right to avoid a collision. These types of near miss events are far too common at uncontrolled airports. Had my student and I not been situationally aware [and] vigilant; we likely would have been killed. The [other] pilot clearly was not paying attention to the radio; was not looking out for traffic; and was not situationally aware. Suggestions for the FAA to reduce these occurrences: make position reporting in the pattern mandatory. Make flight reviews be with a dpe. Make flight instructors unable to give instruction outside of being with an 'approved school'. These steps; either individually or in combination; will dramatically improve pilot training and re-certification standards. Additionally; it will allow the FAA the opportunity to place special emphasis on certain areas during recurrent training and the flight review process. Getting a flight instructor certificate should be just like getting a commercial pilot certificate. Becoming a commercial pilot does not allow you to become a commercial operator without significant FAA oversight. The same should be true for flight instructors.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C182 instructor pilot reported an airborne conflict with another light aircraft in the pattern at BUY airport.
Narrative: We were on the 45 degree entry to the left downwind for Runway 24. We made radio calls on the CTAF frequency. [Another aircraft] announced that he departed Runway 24; then crosswind. We announced on the 45 then downwind. We monitored the [other] pilot's position and saw that he was coming straight towards us from the left and a little above us. I asked the pilot if he saw us and he said no. I told him that we were at his 12 o'clock low and he then said he did see us; and he made a climbing turn to the right to avoid a collision. These types of near miss events are far too common at uncontrolled airports. Had my student and I not been situationally aware [and] vigilant; we likely would have been killed. The [other] pilot clearly was not paying attention to the radio; was not looking out for traffic; and was not situationally aware. Suggestions for the FAA to reduce these occurrences: Make position reporting in the pattern mandatory. Make flight reviews be with a DPE. Make flight instructors unable to give instruction outside of being with an 'approved school'. These steps; either individually or in combination; will dramatically improve pilot training and re-certification standards. Additionally; it will allow the FAA the opportunity to place special emphasis on certain areas during recurrent training and the flight review process. Getting a flight instructor certificate should be just like getting a commercial pilot certificate. Becoming a commercial pilot does not allow you to become a commercial operator without significant FAA oversight. The same should be true for flight instructors.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.