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Attributes | |
ACN | 1318753 |
Time | |
Date | 201511 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | APA.Airport |
State Reference | CO |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | BAe 125 Series 800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Landing |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Ground Event / Encounter Other / Unknown |
Narrative:
Denver center handed us off to denver approach. Information 'H' was current at apa. Additionally runway 35R had 1/4 inch patchy dry snow over patchy ice. Braking action fair. Runway 35R; the turnoff taxiways and taxiway 'a' were open. The other runways and taxiways were closed.denver approach control vectored us for the ILS 35R approach. No other aircraft inbound to apa were on the frequency. After our approach clearance; we were handed off to centennial tower. The tower informed us that there was a vehicle on the runway and that we would receive landing clearance momentarily. No other aircraft were on the tower frequency. The vehicle was instructed to remain clear of the ILS critical area. After issuing our landing clearance the tower advised braking action fair by vehicle. My sic in the right seat made a good landing properly aligned with the center line. Initial deceleration was normal. As we transferred control; braking effect was minimal. The aircraft began to slide in our direction of travel. I eased off the brakes and kept the thrust reversers deployed. We came to a complete stop at A5. Moving very slowly; our initial turn to the right was 90 degrees before positioning the aircraft for transit along this diagonal high speed taxiway. Then; we made another right turn onto taxiway 'a'. Both tower and ground had requested a braking action report. After a brief flight deck consultation; my sic responded that the touchdown zone was fair and that the remainder of the runway was poor. We also reported the taxiways and ramp poor.my partner escorted our passenger into the FBO. Another hawker captain approached and entered our aircraft. He asked about the braking action. After my response; I learned that he had reported the braking action poor only a little while before our landing. I could not believe it. ATC issued a vehicle braking action report but never informed us about this actual aircraft report. I got back on the radio and again advised the ground controller about our 'poor' report and was told that airport operations was aware of it.I was curious about the apa airport facility. Why did the apa tower not inform us about the 'poor' braking action report filled by the earlier hawker? My partner and I had already predetermined that a poor braking action report would necessitate a diversion to denver international.this was a poor plan right from the start. Duty time; strong headwinds and our aircraft limitations; weather and aircraft availability prevented us from properly flying the trip to the final destination. We were tossed into a pop up trip over a peak period holiday. The weather in denver made it a very poor location for the passenger hand off.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Hawker 800 Captain reported landing at APA with braking action of fair reported by a vehicle. The reporter found the braking action to be poor and had difficulty stopping the aircraft. A Captain that had landed earlier also found the braking action to be poor and reported it; but the Tower chose to report only the vehicle report.
Narrative: Denver Center handed us off to Denver approach. Information 'H' was current at APA. Additionally Runway 35R had 1/4 inch patchy dry snow over patchy ice. Braking action fair. Runway 35R; the turnoff taxiways and taxiway 'A' were open. The other runways and taxiways were closed.Denver Approach Control vectored us for the ILS 35R Approach. No other aircraft inbound to APA were on the frequency. After our approach clearance; we were handed off to Centennial Tower. The tower informed us that there was a vehicle on the runway and that we would receive landing clearance momentarily. No other aircraft were on the tower frequency. The vehicle was instructed to remain clear of the ILS critical area. After issuing our landing clearance the tower advised braking action fair by vehicle. My SIC in the right seat made a good landing properly aligned with the center line. Initial deceleration was normal. As we transferred control; braking effect was minimal. The aircraft began to slide in our direction of travel. I eased off the brakes and kept the thrust reversers deployed. We came to a complete stop at A5. Moving very slowly; our initial turn to the right was 90 degrees before positioning the aircraft for transit along this diagonal high speed taxiway. Then; we made another right turn onto taxiway 'A'. Both tower and ground had requested a braking action report. After a brief flight deck consultation; my SIC responded that the touchdown zone was fair and that the remainder of the runway was poor. We also reported the taxiways and ramp poor.My partner escorted our passenger into the FBO. Another Hawker Captain approached and entered our aircraft. He asked about the braking action. After my response; I learned that he had reported the braking action poor only a little while before our landing. I could not believe it. ATC issued a vehicle braking action report but never informed us about this actual aircraft report. I got back on the radio and again advised the ground controller about our 'poor' report and was told that airport operations was aware of it.I was curious about the APA airport facility. Why did the APA tower not inform us about the 'poor' braking action report filled by the earlier Hawker? My partner and I had already predetermined that a poor braking action report would necessitate a diversion to Denver International.This was a poor plan right from the start. Duty time; strong headwinds and our aircraft limitations; weather and aircraft availability prevented us from properly flying the trip to the final destination. We were tossed into a pop up trip over a peak period holiday. The weather in Denver made it a very poor location for the passenger hand off.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.