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Attributes | |
ACN | 1340073 |
Time | |
Date | 201603 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | SLC.Airport |
State Reference | UT |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Speed All Types |
Narrative:
First officer first officer is new. On approach into slc we were told to go around as approach had lost their separation minimums. I read back the clearance but the first officer was confused and not aware we were supposed to go around. I was making [the fos] calls and my calls and telling [the first officer] what to do. [The first officer] continued the descent. I repeated the call to climb but [the first officer] still continued the descent. I was glued to the vsi to make the positive rate call when [appropriate] but [the first officer] just kept descending. I finally had to hit the takeoff go around (toga) for [the first officer]; and forcefully tell [the first officer] to climb; at the same time trying to communicate and read back the ATC clearance. As soon as I noticed we had a positive rate of climb I called that out and in the process of coaching [the first officer] and helping [the first officer] out while trying to talk to ATC; I ended up retracting the gear at 215kts.after reading through this it seems as I painted a rather harsh picture of this fos flying abilities. I want to reiterate that yes this particular issue happened as described; but this in no way reflects on [the fos] overall piloting skills and abilities in general terms. [The first officer] does a very good job overall; and for some reason this caught [the first officer] very off guard. We talked at length about what should be said and done in a go around and [the first officer] does understand and was very adamant about how not to go around in the future. As I said above [the first officer] is still very new and I personally believe will do a very good job going forward. Everybody has their bad days!first officer was not in the mind set of a go around and initially did not hear the clearance or was confused as to what to do.always be ready for a missed approach and mentally fly it prior to every landing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CRJ-200 Captain reported the new First Officer had some difficulty properly executing a missed approach.
Narrative: First Officer FO is new. On Approach into SLC we were told to Go Around as Approach had lost their separation minimums. I read back the clearance but the FO was confused and not aware we were supposed to Go Around. I was making [the FOs] calls and my calls and telling [the FO] what to do. [The FO] continued the descent. I repeated the call to climb but [the FO] still continued the descent. I was glued to the VSI to make the positive rate call when [appropriate] but [the FO] just kept descending. I finally had to hit the Takeoff Go Around (TOGA) for [the FO]; and forcefully tell [the FO] to climb; at the same time trying to communicate and read back the ATC clearance. As soon as I noticed we had a positive rate of climb I called that out and in the process of coaching [the FO] and helping [the FO] out while trying to talk to ATC; I ended up retracting the gear at 215kts.After reading through this it seems as I painted a rather harsh picture of this FOs flying abilities. I want to reiterate that yes this particular issue happened as described; but this in no way reflects on [the FOs] overall piloting skills and abilities in general terms. [The FO] does a very good job overall; and for some reason this caught [the FO] very off guard. We talked at length about what should be said and done in a go around and [the FO] does understand and was very adamant about how not to Go Around in the future. As I said above [the FO] is still very new and I personally believe will do a very good job going forward. Everybody has their bad days!FO was not in the mind set of a Go Around and initially did not hear the clearance or was confused as to what to do.Always be ready for a Missed Approach and mentally fly it prior to every landing.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.