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An captain reported that he has the takeoff minimums for runway 28 at ngu have been changed to north/a on the jeppesen 31-1 plate and believes that this is incorrect. The previous version stated; adequate vis ref 1/4; and standard 1 (1 & 2 eng); with the addition of stadium lights that should not have affected the takeoff minimums.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1342113 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201603 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | NGU.Airport |
| State Reference | VA |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Parked |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
We fly in and out of ngu (norfolk NAS; norfolk; va). I think the take-off minimums on the jeppesen 31-1 are incorrect. I have a jeppesen 31-1 dated 11 dec 09; which (correctly) shows runway 28 take-off minimums as: adequate vis ref 1/4; and standard 1 (1 & 2 eng). At some point; take-off obstacles for runway 28 was updated to include stadium lights. This caused jeppesen to change the take-off minimums to north/a. Really this means that we need to be VFR to takeoff on runway 28 at ngu. I wrote to jeppesen and sent in the DOD document on takeoff minimums; but they cited a us navy document and did not respond to my second query. I will send the information to company safety. The stadium lights for runway 28 are 74 feet high and 2;327 feet from the departure end of the runway (der). The take-off obstacles for runway 10 are trees; which are up to 100 feet tall within 1;500 feet from der. The trees are higher and closer to the der. I think the take-off minimum criteria was incorrectly applied to runway 28. I tried to correct this but have not been successful.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: An Captain reported that he has the takeoff minimums for Runway 28 at NGU have been changed to N/A on the Jeppesen 31-1 plate and believes that this is incorrect. The previous version stated; Adequate Vis Ref 1/4; and STD 1 (1 & 2 Eng); with the addition of stadium lights that should not have affected the takeoff minimums.
Narrative: We fly in and out of NGU (Norfolk NAS; Norfolk; VA). I think the TAKE-OFF Minimums on the Jeppesen 31-1 are incorrect. I have a Jeppesen 31-1 dated 11 Dec 09; which (correctly) shows Runway 28 Take-off minimums as: Adequate Vis Ref 1/4; and STD 1 (1 & 2 Eng). At some point; Take-off Obstacles for Runway 28 was updated to include Stadium Lights. This caused Jeppesen to change the TAKE-OFF Minimums to N/A. Really this means that we need to be VFR to takeoff on Runway 28 at NGU. I wrote to Jeppesen and sent in the DOD document on Takeoff minimums; but they cited a US Navy document and did not respond to my second query. I will send the information to company Safety. The Stadium lights for runway 28 are 74 feet high and 2;327 feet from the Departure end of the Runway (DER). The TAKE-OFF Obstacles for Runway 10 are TREES; which are up to 100 feet tall within 1;500 feet from DER. The TREES are HIGHER and CLOSER to the DER. I think the TAKE-OFF Minimum criteria was incorrectly applied to RWY 28. I tried to correct this but have not been successful.
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