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A90 TRACON controller reported that IFR departures were being issued vectors below the minimum vectoring altitude.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1342502 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201603 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | A90.TRACON |
| State Reference | NH |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft Low Wing 1 Eng Fixed Gear |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | Climb |
| Route In Use | Vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Approach |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
| Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 3 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Airspace Violation All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Inflight Event / Encounter CFTT / CFIT |
Narrative:
Aircraft X departed IFR; into low IMC weather. The clearance issued was heading 090 and climb to 3000 feet while aircraft X was on the ground. Aircraft X departed and elected to fly the obstacle departure procedure (odp). The controller radar identified the aircraft; then prior to aircraft X finishing the odp and while still below the minimum vectoring altitude radar vectored the aircraft off the odp. I was working at the time and told the controller that he can't do that. He had no idea what I was talking about.first; the odp needs to be available in the ids (flight data display system). It isn't. Controllers need to be trained on odp's and what they are for. The unwritten policy is to assign departures enter controlled airspace 090 heading on departure. Given the ambiguity of the instruction and how it conflicts with the odp; this is an unsafe practice. A better policy would be to use a first fix to navigate to. There are plenty of RNAV fixes around; several would be appropriate to use. What makes matters worse is the airport pilots association held a meeting about this exact problem last year. The facility manager spoke at the meeting. He straight lied to the group of pilots about how it is being handled at the TRACON.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A90 TRACON Controller reported that IFR departures were being issued vectors below the minimum vectoring altitude.
Narrative: Aircraft X departed IFR; into low IMC weather. The clearance issued was heading 090 and climb to 3000 feet while Aircraft X was on the ground. Aircraft X departed and elected to fly the Obstacle Departure Procedure (ODP). The controller radar identified the aircraft; then prior to Aircraft X finishing the ODP and while still below the Minimum Vectoring Altitude radar vectored the aircraft off the ODP. I was working at the time and told the controller that he can't do that. He had no idea what I was talking about.First; the ODP needs to be available in the IDS (Flight Data Display System). It isn't. Controllers need to be trained on ODP's and what they are for. The unwritten policy is to assign departures enter controlled airspace 090 heading on departure. Given the ambiguity of the instruction and how it conflicts with the ODP; this is an unsafe practice. A better policy would be to use a first fix to navigate to. There are plenty of RNAV fixes around; several would be appropriate to use. What makes matters worse is the airport pilots association held a meeting about this exact problem last year. The facility manager spoke at the meeting. He straight lied to the group of pilots about how it is being handled at the TRACON.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.