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Attributes | |
ACN | 1345158 |
Time | |
Date | 201604 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZLC.ARTCC |
State Reference | UT |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Small Transport Low Wing 2 Recip Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Enroute |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 3 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Enroute |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 5 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Track / Heading All Types Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
Aircraft X was in level flight. There was weather between them and their destination that other aircraft had to deviate around earlier in the night. I issued the weather; and even though the pilot didn't see the weather; he still requested to deviate. We typically lose radar on aircraft at or below 12000 feet in this area and he was level at 8000 feet; but later requested 10000 feet. We had just been briefed earlier that we cannot issue weather deviations to non-radar aircraft. I was very worried that we would lose the aircraft on radar and I would have to declare an emergency on his behalf. This situation occupied my attention and while nothing unsafe happened; I would have been extremely distracted as I had an 'emergency in the making.' I was relieved from the sector before the aircraft went non-radar; so I'm not sure how this situation ended.there was nothing unsafe in the way we used to assign direct routes in non-radar situations; we need a waiver or something like that to let us give pilots what they need (point to point direct clearances; ability to deviate around weather non-radar; ability to give direct clearances while non-radar e.g. Initial approach fixes or fixes to avoid military airspace.) with our rapidly deteriorating staffing situation; I'm not sure that we'll have the staffing during the summer to properly handle these situations.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZLC ARTCC mandated that controllers cannot approve weather deviations for aircraft not in radar coverage unless the aircraft is given special attention.
Narrative: Aircraft X was in level flight. There was weather between them and their destination that other aircraft had to deviate around earlier in the night. I issued the weather; and even though the pilot didn't see the weather; he still requested to deviate. We typically lose radar on aircraft at or below 12000 feet in this area and he was level at 8000 feet; but later requested 10000 feet. We had just been briefed earlier that we cannot issue weather deviations to non-radar aircraft. I was very worried that we would lose the aircraft on radar and I would have to declare an emergency on his behalf. This situation occupied my attention and while nothing unsafe happened; I would have been extremely distracted as I had an 'emergency in the making.' I was relieved from the sector before the aircraft went non-radar; so I'm not sure how this situation ended.There was nothing unsafe in the way we used to assign direct routes in non-radar situations; we need a waiver or something like that to let us give pilots what they need (point to point direct clearances; ability to deviate around weather non-radar; ability to give direct clearances while non-radar e.g. initial approach fixes or fixes to avoid military airspace.) With our rapidly deteriorating staffing situation; I'm not sure that we'll have the staffing during the summer to properly handle these situations.
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