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Attributes | |
ACN | 1348624 |
Time | |
Date | 201604 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZLA.ARTCC |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Citationjet (C525/C526) - CJ I / II / III / IV |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | Vectors STAR Tandy3 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Flying Single Pilot |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Instrument |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 89 Flight Crew Total 13200 Flight Crew Type 1000 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Other / Unknown |
Narrative:
Coming up on [fix] I requested descent. The controller stated it would be 15 miles. I was at my top of descent (TOD) so I waited 15 miles and asked again. The controller stated he would descend me when he decided. I told him I was past TOD and was coming close to not making merma at 14;000 foot restriction. He then started vectoring me 7 times with over 180 degree turns and being a jerk. All this time slowly giving me 1;000 foot descents. He was rude and threatened me that he would have to give me a phone number. Finally he gave me direct to [fix] and cross at 14;000 feet. With that clearance I read it back and said good day. He came back and stated to stay with him. I stated yes sir just wishful thinking. He blew a gasket yelling at me that if I had one more non vernacular aviation comment he would violate me. Then an airliner spoke 'you go boy' and the controller thanked them. Really... So I asked for the phone number so I could complain as then he changed my frequency and stated that I should have filed for a lower altitude next time and I stated due to operations I was unable and he spouted off that I should have went at 11;000 feet VFR then. The next controller seemed to be also trying to help their buddy out and make me violate the far. This gaining up on a single pilot jet operation is unacceptable and to be a bully and trying to push me around is not right. His nasty comments and how to operate my aircraft is just wrong. I did call the number and the supervisor started off apologizing to me and that they would not come after me for anything. I thanked him and told him my side and that I needed to file a safa and he agreed it would be good to advise you so we may never have this happen again. I purposely filed the west leg of the arrival to get down in time and the controller before was helping give a short cut that was not asked for but appreciated.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Cessna Citation 525 single pilot twice requested descent to 14;000 FT to make the MERMA restriction. Pilot was reportedly chastised by the Controller and felt he was vectored excessively by ATC.
Narrative: Coming up on [fix] I requested descent. The controller stated it would be 15 miles. I was at my Top of Descent (TOD) so I waited 15 miles and asked again. The controller stated he would descend me when he decided. I told him I was past TOD and was coming close to not making MERMA at 14;000 foot restriction. He then started vectoring me 7 times with over 180 degree turns and being a jerk. All this time slowly giving me 1;000 foot descents. He was rude and threatened me that he would have to give me a phone number. Finally he gave me direct to [fix] and cross at 14;000 feet. With that clearance I read it back and said good day. He came back and stated to stay with him. I stated yes sir just wishful thinking. He blew a gasket yelling at me that IF I had one more non vernacular aviation comment he would violate me. Then an airliner spoke 'you go boy' and the controller thanked them. Really... So I asked for the phone number so I could complain as then he changed my frequency and stated that I should have filed for a lower altitude next time and I stated due to operations I was unable and he spouted off that I should have went at 11;000 feet VFR then. The next controller seemed to be also trying to help their buddy out and make me violate the FAR. This gaining up on a single pilot jet operation is unacceptable and to be a bully and trying to push me around is not right. His nasty comments and how to operate my aircraft is just wrong. I did call the number and the supervisor started off apologizing to me and that they would not come after me for anything. I thanked him and told him my side and that I needed to file a SAFA and he agreed it would be good to advise you so we may never have this happen again. I purposely filed the west leg of the arrival to get down in time and the controller before was helping give a short cut that was not asked for but appreciated.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.