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Attributes | |
ACN | 1350291 |
Time | |
Date | 201604 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZAU.ARTCC |
State Reference | IL |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | STAR MIZAR 3 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Enroute |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 3.4 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Airspace Violation All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
ZOB cleveland center routinely takes handoffs late. By late I mean with less than 2 minutes flying time to their boundary. ZOB also routinely doesn't answer landline calls in a timely fashion; for; e.g.; handoffs. So one is repeatedly in the frustrating position of having to 'sweat' handoffs to cleveland center. Today; litchfield sector (C14) didn't take the handoff on aircraft X; FL210; MIZAR3 arrival to dtw until 1 min flying time to their boundary. This is unacceptable.low and high altitude sectors have minimum nautical mile distances outside of their airspace that they have to look (I believe 25NM for high alt and 15NM for low alt sectors). I don't believe many ZOB sectors abutting ZAU airspace look the proper distance out; or even if they do they still don't take handoffs in a timely fashion a good percentage of the time (in my case I'd estimate 15% of handoffs are not accepted in a timely fashion). I'd recommend ZOB controllers get remedial training on handoffs. The irony that ZOB flashes aircraft at ZAU 10+ minutes from our boundary and we as a culture mostly take their handoffs 2-5 minutes flying time from our boundary seems to be lost on ZOB controllers who routinely wait until the last second. This is extremely annoying on the mid shift as well because you don't want to sweat the one plane in your sector being accepted by ZOB.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZAU Controller reported that ZOB is routinely late on taking handoffs and that they do not answer landlines in a timely manner.
Narrative: ZOB Cleveland Center routinely takes handoffs late. By late I mean with less than 2 minutes flying time to their boundary. ZOB also routinely doesn't answer landline calls in a timely fashion; for; e.g.; handoffs. So one is repeatedly in the frustrating position of having to 'sweat' handoffs to Cleveland Center. Today; Litchfield sector (C14) didn't take the handoff on Aircraft X; FL210; MIZAR3 arrival to DTW until 1 min flying time to their boundary. This is unacceptable.Low and high altitude sectors have minimum nautical mile distances outside of their airspace that they have to look (I believe 25NM for high alt and 15NM for low alt sectors). I don't believe many ZOB sectors abutting ZAU airspace look the proper distance out; or even if they do they still don't take handoffs in a timely fashion a good percentage of the time (in my case I'd estimate 15% of handoffs are not accepted in a timely fashion). I'd recommend ZOB controllers get remedial training on handoffs. The irony that ZOB flashes aircraft at ZAU 10+ minutes from our boundary and we as a culture mostly take their handoffs 2-5 minutes flying time from our boundary seems to be lost on ZOB controllers who routinely wait until the last second. This is extremely annoying on the mid shift as well because you don't want to sweat the one plane in your sector being accepted by ZOB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.