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Attributes | |
ACN | 1354910 |
Time | |
Date | 201605 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | HRT.Airport |
State Reference | FL |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Light Transport Low Wing 2 Turboprop Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Function | Single Pilot |
Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 60 Flight Crew Total 14000 Flight Crew Type 4500 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Airspace Violation All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural Clearance |
Narrative:
Departed dts with a clearance and VFR squawk from eglin approach. Instructed to 'remain 1 mile south of the coast until airborne contact with eglin'. At 400 feet and turning west south of the coast; contacted eglin and they verified radar contact. Eglin then proceeded to get very busy and gave multiple instructions to multiple civilian and military aircraft; of which it was not possible to decipher which instructions were for whom. As I am flying along at 1000 feet westbound; I determine that eglin is instructing me to contact hurlburt tower as I am about to penetrate the boundary of hurlburt class D while under positive control from eglin. I am not sure if I established contact with hrt tower before penetrating their class D. Dts absolutely needs a VFR departure procedure which does not require initial contact with eglin (such as 'departure 14'; proceed east on 120 heading or west on heading 210 at or below 1200 MSL until contact with eglin. If unable to establish two-way radio communication proceed...') although dts is presently constructing a control tower; I believe in the absence of a VFR dep procedure; the tower will only create IFR-like flow control for all traffic regardless of VFR/IFR ops.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Pilot while under flight following is not sure if he penetrated a Class D airspace. Pilot described a possible departure procedure to help with this problem.
Narrative: Departed DTS with a clearance and VFR squawk from Eglin approach. Instructed to 'remain 1 mile south of the coast until airborne contact with Eglin'. At 400 feet and turning west south of the coast; contacted Eglin and they verified radar contact. Eglin then proceeded to get very busy and gave multiple instructions to multiple civilian and military aircraft; of which it was not possible to decipher which instructions were for whom. As I am flying along at 1000 feet westbound; I determine that Eglin is instructing me to contact Hurlburt tower as I am about to penetrate the boundary of Hurlburt class D while under positive control from Eglin. I am not sure if I established contact with HRT tower before penetrating their class D. DTS absolutely needs a VFR departure procedure which does not require initial contact with Eglin (such as 'departure 14'; proceed east on 120 heading or west on heading 210 at or below 1200 MSL until contact with Eglin. If unable to establish two-way radio communication proceed...') although DTS is presently constructing a control tower; I believe in the absence of a VFR dep procedure; the tower will only create IFR-like flow control for all traffic regardless of VFR/IFR ops.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.