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Attributes | |
ACN | 135555 |
Time | |
Date | 199002 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : osh |
State Reference | WI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 35000 msl bound upper : 35000 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Heavy Transport, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 135555 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
This is not an incident. At night when osh tower is closed, the ATIS broadcasts for a couple hundred miles on 125.8 that the tower is closed. I am a pilot going into day from pdx. Day's ATIS is also 125.8, but it is blocked until 120-150 mi at best by osh's ATIS. It would be great if we could get day's ATIS earlier--we could plan much better and it would work much easier for us. I suggest changing the osh ATIS frequency so that it does not interfere with day's for aircraft approaching from the west. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter states, 'we are generally well east of chicago before we get out of the range of osh ATIS and can then read day ATIS. Not a huge problem to get the ATIS late in descent, but it would facility our procedure immensely if we could obtain the day ATIS sooner.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AT NIGHT WHEN OSH TWR IS CLOSED, THE OSH ATIS BROADCAST INTERFERES WITH DAY ATIS.
Narrative: THIS IS NOT AN INCIDENT. AT NIGHT WHEN OSH TWR IS CLOSED, THE ATIS BROADCASTS FOR A COUPLE HUNDRED MILES ON 125.8 THAT THE TWR IS CLOSED. I AM A PLT GOING INTO DAY FROM PDX. DAY'S ATIS IS ALSO 125.8, BUT IT IS BLOCKED UNTIL 120-150 MI AT BEST BY OSH'S ATIS. IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD GET DAY'S ATIS EARLIER--WE COULD PLAN MUCH BETTER AND IT WOULD WORK MUCH EASIER FOR US. I SUGGEST CHANGING THE OSH ATIS FREQ SO THAT IT DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH DAY'S FOR ACFT APCHING FROM THE W. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR STATES, 'WE ARE GENERALLY WELL E OF CHICAGO BEFORE WE GET OUT OF THE RANGE OF OSH ATIS AND CAN THEN READ DAY ATIS. NOT A HUGE PROB TO GET THE ATIS LATE IN DSCNT, BUT IT WOULD FACILITY OUR PROC IMMENSELY IF WE COULD OBTAIN THE DAY ATIS SOONER.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.