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Attributes | |
ACN | 1356752 |
Time | |
Date | 201605 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | LAS.Airport |
State Reference | NV |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Airbus 318/319/320/321 Undifferentiated |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Landing |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Inflight Event / Encounter Unstabilized Approach |
Narrative:
First officer's (first officer) landing into las. [The first officer] used config 3 and added 5 knots to vapp because of a gusty crosswind on runway 25L. The wind was reported as 190/10 gust to 18 on ATIS but the tower's last report was 190/9. Everything looked great until about 40 feet when it appeared we had a 'sinker' setting in. The first officer mechanically retarded the autothrust at 30 feet anyway and exacerbated the sinker. [The first officer] decided to arrest the descent by over-rotating the airplane. I had time to say 'pitch' only once before the auto pitch call out occurred. We were in quite a crab with a high rate of descent so my primary attention was outside. The touchdown was normal but quite nose high. The ACARS report said the pitch attitude was 8.1 degrees.we pre-briefed the gusty crosswinds; landed with config 3 which produces the most tail clearance and added an extra five knots to vapp. It was quite honestly too late for me to take action. I was a check airman for many years on a different airplane and know firsthand that at some point in a landing; the situation is not salvageable. This was that time. [The first officer] obviously didn't detect the 'sinker' and certainly shouldn't have retarded the thrust. We discussed different strategies to prevent another occurrence like this. As mentioned above; we discussed some techniques to prevent this from happening again. I don't think [the first officer] was looking far enough down the runway to detect the 'sinker.' I also asked if [the first officer] had ever landed with the autothrust off and the reply was no. This is a huge gap in our airbus pilot's skill set. I almost always land with the autothrust off in gusty conditions so that I am 'connected' to the airspeed and sink rate trends. With the autothrust on; it is impossible to add thrust in the flare to counteract that dreaded 'sinker.' I rarely fly with pilots comfortable enough in the jet to turn the automation off and be pilots. This is a frightening trend.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: An Airbus A320 series First Officer over rotated during a LAS crosswind landing after the 'bottom fell out' in the flare with autothrottles off. ACARS reported an 8.1 degree pitch angle.
Narrative: FO's (First Officer) landing into LAS. [The First Officer] used config 3 and added 5 knots to Vapp because of a gusty crosswind on runway 25L. The wind was reported as 190/10 gust to 18 on ATIS but the tower's last report was 190/9. Everything looked great until about 40 feet when it appeared we had a 'sinker' setting in. The first officer mechanically retarded the autothrust at 30 feet anyway and exacerbated the sinker. [The First Officer] decided to arrest the descent by over-rotating the airplane. I had time to say 'Pitch' only once before the auto pitch call out occurred. We were in quite a crab with a high rate of descent so my primary attention was outside. The touchdown was normal but quite nose high. The ACARS report said the pitch attitude was 8.1 degrees.We pre-briefed the gusty crosswinds; landed with config 3 which produces the most tail clearance and added an extra five knots to Vapp. It was quite honestly too late for me to take action. I was a check airman for many years on a different airplane and know firsthand that at some point in a landing; the situation is not salvageable. This was that time. [The First Officer] obviously didn't detect the 'sinker' and certainly shouldn't have retarded the thrust. We discussed different strategies to prevent another occurrence like this. As mentioned above; we discussed some techniques to prevent this from happening again. I don't think [the First Officer] was looking far enough down the runway to detect the 'sinker.' I also asked if [the First Officer] had ever landed with the autothrust off and the reply was no. This is a huge gap in our Airbus pilot's skill set. I almost always land with the autothrust off in gusty conditions so that I am 'connected' to the airspeed and sink rate trends. With the autothrust on; it is impossible to add thrust in the flare to counteract that dreaded 'sinker.' I rarely fly with pilots comfortable enough in the jet to turn the automation off and be pilots. This is a frightening trend.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.