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Widebody transport flight crew cleared to vermo was advised they were off course and were cleared to bromo.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 135764 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199002 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : sju |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 39000 msl bound upper : 39000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : atlantic enroute : other oceanic |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 2400 |
| ASRS Report | 135764 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
ATC cleared us direct to what we understood as vermo, which was entered into the FMC. Sometime later ATC asked our heading for again what we understood as vermo, which was about 145 degrees. He said we should be heading about 165 degrees. Then we started checking latitude and longs, as I gave him north 2064.2, west 06615.7, he said we should be going to some different coordinates. Then I spelled our vermo and he came back with bromo. Now the error was apparent because of the similar sounding names. Also I might add that vermo is a very familiar fix to me, as I have used vermo quite quite frequency, but bromo is not a familiar fix to me. Also my first officer is very new and has no experience in the area and very little in this equipment. Still as many times as both fixes were pronounced neither pilots or controller noticed we were both saying different names.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WDB FLT CREW CLEARED TO VERMO WAS ADVISED THEY WERE OFF COURSE AND WERE CLEARED TO BROMO.
Narrative: ATC CLRED US DIRECT TO WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD AS VERMO, WHICH WAS ENTERED INTO THE FMC. SOMETIME LATER ATC ASKED OUR HDG FOR AGAIN WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD AS VERMO, WHICH WAS ABOUT 145 DEGS. HE SAID WE SHOULD BE HDG ABOUT 165 DEGS. THEN WE STARTED CHKING LAT AND LONGS, AS I GAVE HIM N 2064.2, W 06615.7, HE SAID WE SHOULD BE GOING TO SOME DIFFERENT COORDINATES. THEN I SPELLED OUR VERMO AND HE CAME BACK WITH BROMO. NOW THE ERROR WAS APPARENT BECAUSE OF THE SIMILAR SOUNDING NAMES. ALSO I MIGHT ADD THAT VERMO IS A VERY FAMILIAR FIX TO ME, AS I HAVE USED VERMO QUITE QUITE FREQ, BUT BROMO IS NOT A FAMILIAR FIX TO ME. ALSO MY F/O IS VERY NEW AND HAS NO EXPERIENCE IN THE AREA AND VERY LITTLE IN THIS EQUIP. STILL AS MANY TIMES AS BOTH FIXES WERE PRONOUNCED NEITHER PLTS OR CTLR NOTICED WE WERE BOTH SAYING DIFFERENT NAMES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.