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Attributes | |
ACN | 136745 |
Time | |
Date | 199002 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dtw |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2700 msl bound upper : 2700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dtw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 9300 flight time type : 2580 |
ASRS Report | 136745 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
First officer flying aircraft, first approach controller gave us a 310 heading, vectors for runway 3L. All 3 crew briefed for an ILS to runway 3L. Following our extensive briefing to runway 3L ILS, the controller handed us off to the final approach controller. The final controller gave us a series of vectors, did not specify which runway, and on his last vector, which did not look right to us, I questioned him as to which runway we were going to. He said these were vectors to 3R. We had set up, briefed on, and were ready for an ILS to 3L as previously issued. This is another case where controllers are not communicating with each other. I called the TRACON on the ground, the supervisor said there was no conflict with other traffic, and that this happens.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: BRIEFED AND PREPPED FOR ILS TO 03L AT DTW, AND ACR LGT RECEIVED LAST MINUTE CHANGE TO 03R AND DOESN'T LIKE IT.
Narrative: F/O FLYING ACFT, FIRST APCH CTLR GAVE US A 310 HDG, VECTORS FOR RWY 3L. ALL 3 CREW BRIEFED FOR AN ILS TO RWY 3L. FOLLOWING OUR EXTENSIVE BRIEFING TO RWY 3L ILS, THE CTLR HANDED US OFF TO THE FINAL APCH CTLR. THE FINAL CTLR GAVE US A SERIES OF VECTORS, DID NOT SPECIFY WHICH RWY, AND ON HIS LAST VECTOR, WHICH DID NOT LOOK RIGHT TO US, I QUESTIONED HIM AS TO WHICH RWY WE WERE GOING TO. HE SAID THESE WERE VECTORS TO 3R. WE HAD SET UP, BRIEFED ON, AND WERE READY FOR AN ILS TO 3L AS PREVIOUSLY ISSUED. THIS IS ANOTHER CASE WHERE CTLRS ARE NOT COMMUNICATING WITH EACH OTHER. I CALLED THE TRACON ON THE GND, THE SUPVR SAID THERE WAS NO CONFLICT WITH OTHER TFC, AND THAT THIS HAPPENS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.