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Attributes | |
ACN | 138629 |
Time | |
Date | 199003 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mad |
State Reference | CT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : bdl |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 14183 flight time type : 3770 |
ASRS Report | 138629 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
'Too many numbers and too much information all at once'. We had just switched from center to approach control and checked in with our identify, 11000', 250 KTS with ATIS. Approach control acknowledged and gave us the following clearance: turn right to 360 degree, descend to (what we believed to be 7000'), altimeter 29.79, expect vectors to runway 24 wind 220/15 G 25 KTS. I responded with a readback of the above and stated leaving 11000' for 7000'. (Our procedure for setting the altitude alerter is for the flying pilot to set the altitude he hears and the non flying pilot to respond at ATC with the altitude he hears.) in this case, 7000' heard and set by the pilot flying and 7000' heard and responded to by the non flying pilot. At approximately 8500', the controller asked, 'what is your altitude?' I responded 8.5 for 7.0. Controller stated that 'you were cleared to 10000'.' I replied that I read back, 'descending to 7000'' and did not receive a challenge. The controller then said all right or ok, continue descent to 5000 and turn right to 60. No further conflicts.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR AND CTLR INVOLVED IN ALT DISPUTE.
Narrative: 'TOO MANY NUMBERS AND TOO MUCH INFO ALL AT ONCE'. WE HAD JUST SWITCHED FROM CENTER TO APCH CTL AND CHECKED IN WITH OUR IDENT, 11000', 250 KTS WITH ATIS. APCH CTL ACKNOWLEDGED AND GAVE US THE FOLLOWING CLRNC: TURN RIGHT TO 360 DEG, DSND TO (WHAT WE BELIEVED TO BE 7000'), ALTIMETER 29.79, EXPECT VECTORS TO RWY 24 WIND 220/15 G 25 KTS. I RESPONDED WITH A READBACK OF THE ABOVE AND STATED LEAVING 11000' FOR 7000'. (OUR PROC FOR SETTING THE ALT ALERTER IS FOR THE FLYING PLT TO SET THE ALT HE HEARS AND THE NON FLYING PLT TO RESPOND AT ATC WITH THE ALT HE HEARS.) IN THIS CASE, 7000' HEARD AND SET BY THE PLT FLYING AND 7000' HEARD AND RESPONDED TO BY THE NON FLYING PLT. AT APPROX 8500', THE CTLR ASKED, 'WHAT IS YOUR ALT?' I RESPONDED 8.5 FOR 7.0. CTLR STATED THAT 'YOU WERE CLRED TO 10000'.' I REPLIED THAT I READ BACK, 'DESCENDING TO 7000'' AND DID NOT RECEIVE A CHALLENGE. THE CTLR THEN SAID ALL RIGHT OR OK, CONTINUE DSCNT TO 5000 AND TURN RIGHT TO 60. NO FURTHER CONFLICTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.