Flight crew comprised of new captain, new to aircraft, and a new first officer forgets to give the f...

Attributes
ACN	140203
Time
Date	199003
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : pit
State Reference	PA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	landing other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 150
ASRS Report	140203
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

It is company procedure to give an announcement 10 mins prior to landing to the F/a's to have them prepare the cabin for landing. Then at the time the landing gear is lowered and the final landing checklist is accomplished it is procedure for the PNF to give a 3 bell signal in order to warn the F/a's that landing is imminent. The evening of 3/tue/90, the 10 min announcement was made, but the 3 bell signal was not given. As a result, the F/a's did not realize we were landing and were standing in the aisles upon T/D. Fortunately it was a smooth landing and I did not use aggressive reverse and braking as we were using a long runway, so no one was injured. I feel there were several contributing factors to this event: I am a new captain, new to the medium large transport. I had a brand new first officer (his first trip) and the F/a's were all brand new. I was flying the aircraft, but should have been monitoring more closely the first officer's duties. I do not feel it is a safe procedure to pair new captain's with new first officer's, but it happens frequently. I recently flew with 3 new (first trip) first officer's in a 1 week period. Also, the F/a's, if more experienced, perhaps may have noticed landing was imminent (even west/O the 3 bell signal) by the noise produced by the operation of the flaps and landing gear.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLT CREW COMPRISED OF NEW CAPT, NEW TO ACFT, AND A NEW FO FORGETS TO GIVE THE FA'S THE SIGNAL THAT LNDG IS IMMINENT SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE THEIR EATS. ACFT LANDED WITH FA'S NOT SEATED.

Narrative: IT IS COMPANY PROC TO GIVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT 10 MINS PRIOR TO LNDG TO THE F/A'S TO HAVE THEM PREPARE THE CABIN FOR LNDG. THEN AT THE TIME THE LNDG GEAR IS LOWERED AND THE FINAL LNDG CHKLIST IS ACCOMPLISHED IT IS PROC FOR THE PNF TO GIVE A 3 BELL SIGNAL IN ORDER TO WARN THE F/A'S THAT LNDG IS IMMINENT. THE EVENING OF 3/TUE/90, THE 10 MIN ANNOUNCEMENT WAS MADE, BUT THE 3 BELL SIGNAL WAS NOT GIVEN. AS A RESULT, THE F/A'S DID NOT REALIZE WE WERE LNDG AND WERE STANDING IN THE AISLES UPON T/D. FORTUNATELY IT WAS A SMOOTH LNDG AND I DID NOT USE AGGRESSIVE REVERSE AND BRAKING AS WE WERE USING A LONG RWY, SO NO ONE WAS INJURED. I FEEL THERE WERE SEVERAL CONTRIBUTING FACTORS TO THIS EVENT: I AM A NEW CAPT, NEW TO THE MLG. I HAD A BRAND NEW F/O (HIS FIRST TRIP) AND THE F/A'S WERE ALL BRAND NEW. I WAS FLYING THE ACFT, BUT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MONITORING MORE CLOSELY THE F/O'S DUTIES. I DO NOT FEEL IT IS A SAFE PROC TO PAIR NEW CAPT'S WITH NEW F/O'S, BUT IT HAPPENS FREQUENTLY. I RECENTLY FLEW WITH 3 NEW (FIRST TRIP) F/O'S IN A 1 WK PERIOD. ALSO, THE F/A'S, IF MORE EXPERIENCED, PERHAPS MAY HAVE NOTICED LNDG WAS IMMINENT (EVEN W/O THE 3 BELL SIGNAL) BY THE NOISE PRODUCED BY THE OPERATION OF THE FLAPS AND LNDG GEAR.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Flight crew comprised of new captain, new to aircraft, and a new first officer forgets to give the flight attendant's the signal that landing is imminent so that they can take their eats. Aircraft landed with flight attendant's not seated.