37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 1405218 |
Time | |
Date | 201611 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | VRB.Airport |
State Reference | FL |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Citation V/Ultra/Encore (C560) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Takeoff |
Route In Use | None |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Local |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (mon) 4 Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 3 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Aircraft X was an IFR departure with an edct (expect departure clearance time). The clearance was issued before I took the position. The pilots called ready for taxi ahead of their edct time and went to wait near the runway for the edct time. Once they were within the window to depart; local control coordinated the departure with pbi approach and it was accepted. After the aircraft departed pbi called to clear up if the aircraft was released due to a crash fire rescue equipment program to [destination] via certain routes on top of the edct. This is something I'm pretty sure I've never seen before and didn't even think to see if the aircraft had additional flow programs related to their flight with already having an edct in place. Pick one flow program or the other. Having to get a release defeats the whole purpose of having an edct time and can cause controllers to become focused on meeting the edct window and overlooking a crash fire rescue equipment effecting an aircraft like this situation caused.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A VRB Tower Controller cleared an aircraft for takeoff after obtaining an Expect Departure Clearance Time (EDCT) from ZMA Center. PBI TRACON called Tower to advise there may also be a Call for Release requirement in addition to the EDCT.
Narrative: Aircraft X was an IFR Departure with an EDCT (Expect Departure Clearance Time). The clearance was issued before I took the position. The Pilots called ready for taxi ahead of their EDCT time and went to wait near the runway for the EDCT time. Once they were within the window to depart; local control coordinated the departure with PBI Approach and it was accepted. After the aircraft departed PBI called to clear up if the aircraft was released due to a CFR program to [destination] via certain routes on top of the EDCT. This is something I'm pretty sure I've never seen before and didn't even think to see if the aircraft had additional flow programs related to their flight with already having an EDCT in place. Pick one flow program or the other. Having to get a release defeats the whole purpose of having an EDCT time and can cause controllers to become focused on meeting the EDCT window and overlooking a CFR effecting an aircraft like this situation caused.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.