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Attributes | |
ACN | 1408322 |
Time | |
Date | 201610 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | SCT.TRACON |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft High Wing 1 Eng Fixed Gear |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Fighter |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Approach |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 1 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict NMAC Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Aircraft X was VFR to myf told to stop at 6000 feet due to traffic at 5500 feet crossing. Aircraft Y was with a flight of four going to nkx. Because nkx runways were closed I was holding the flight of four at 13000 feet. Aircraft Y requested to depart the flight and proceed to nzy. I gave him a beacon code and started vectoring him to nzy and pointing him out to every sector that would be affected. He did not declare an emergency but I was handling it as if he needed to descend as soon as possible.aircraft X was still at 6000 feet about 3 miles from myf. Nkx tower; the flight of 3; and aircraft Y all called to let me know the runway is now open. Aircraft Y requests the overhead with the field in sight. I descend aircraft Y to 6000 feet and tell him resume own navigation to atlas (the initial for the overhead). I expect aircraft Y to loop north of nkx and make a right turn to join final. He proceeds to turn south downwind and make a left turn to final; which puts him in direct conflict with aircraft X who is still at 6000 feet. I tell aircraft X to start a descent immediately for traffic; which they do; and aircraft Y passes about 300 feet above them. Looking back I should have kept aircraft X completely south of the nkx final because he was unfamiliar and that would have kept him clear of the issue I was working out with the flight of fighters. Also; I should have told aircraft Y how I wanted him to enter the overhead. I assumed and it put both aircraft in a bad situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SCT Controller did not specify the direction of turn to a fix and the descending aircraft turned the opposite direction resulting in a conflict with another aircraft.
Narrative: Aircraft X was VFR to MYF told to stop at 6000 feet due to traffic at 5500 feet crossing. Aircraft Y was with a flight of four going to NKX. Because NKX runways were closed I was holding the flight of four at 13000 feet. Aircraft Y requested to depart the flight and proceed to NZY. I gave him a beacon code and started vectoring him to NZY and pointing him out to every sector that would be affected. He did not declare an emergency but I was handling it as if he needed to descend ASAP.Aircraft X was still at 6000 feet about 3 miles from MYF. NKX Tower; the flight of 3; and Aircraft Y all called to let me know the runway is now open. Aircraft Y requests the Overhead with the field in sight. I descend Aircraft Y to 6000 feet and tell him resume own navigation to ATLAS (the initial for the Overhead). I expect Aircraft Y to loop north of NKX and make a right turn to join final. He proceeds to turn south downwind and make a left turn to final; which puts him in direct conflict with Aircraft X who is still at 6000 feet. I tell Aircraft X to start a descent immediately for traffic; which they do; and Aircraft Y passes about 300 feet above them. Looking back I should have kept Aircraft X completely south of the NKX final because he was unfamiliar and that would have kept him clear of the issue I was working out with the flight of fighters. Also; I should have told Aircraft Y how I wanted him to enter the Overhead. I assumed and it put both aircraft in a bad situation.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.