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Cvg ground controller fails to coordination runway crossing with local controller who had cleared light transport for takeoff.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 141086 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199003 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cvg |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 5200 flight time type : 1800 |
| ASRS Report | 141086 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : rejected takeoff flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 3500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
We came into cvg late at night. Because no additional fuel was required, the aircraft was turned in 7 mins. Contacting ground for taxi we were cleared to taxi to runway 27L via golf, cross runway 27R. As we started to taxi the ground controller initiated a conversation about the speed of our turn around and various other items. Approaching runway 27R I noticed an aircraft on the approach end of the runway with all lights on. I stopped my taxi and questioned the ground controller as to whether we were still cleared to cross runway 27R. He replied in the affirmative. As I began to taxi, I had about 1/3 of the aircraft on the runway he when told me to hold short. I immediately advanced the throttles to takeoff power and replied that I was unable. We cleared the runway and the light transport that had been cleared for takeoff aborted. There was never a close conflict but the light transport was forced to abort. I believe that the ground controller got interested in our conversation and did not coordination with tower before issuing us clearance to cross.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CVG GND CTLR FAILS TO COORD RWY CROSSING WITH LCL CTLR WHO HAD CLEARED LTT FOR TKOF.
Narrative: WE CAME INTO CVG LATE AT NIGHT. BECAUSE NO ADDITIONAL FUEL WAS REQUIRED, THE ACFT WAS TURNED IN 7 MINS. CONTACTING GND FOR TAXI WE WERE CLRED TO TAXI TO RWY 27L VIA GOLF, CROSS RWY 27R. AS WE STARTED TO TAXI THE GND CTLR INITIATED A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE SPD OF OUR TURN AROUND AND VARIOUS OTHER ITEMS. APCHING RWY 27R I NOTICED AN ACFT ON THE APCH END OF THE RWY WITH ALL LIGHTS ON. I STOPPED MY TAXI AND QUESTIONED THE GND CTLR AS TO WHETHER WE WERE STILL CLRED TO CROSS RWY 27R. HE REPLIED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. AS I BEGAN TO TAXI, I HAD ABOUT 1/3 OF THE ACFT ON THE RWY HE WHEN TOLD ME TO HOLD SHORT. I IMMEDIATELY ADVANCED THE THROTTLES TO TKOF PWR AND REPLIED THAT I WAS UNABLE. WE CLRED THE RWY AND THE LTT THAT HAD BEEN CLRED FOR TKOF ABORTED. THERE WAS NEVER A CLOSE CONFLICT BUT THE LTT WAS FORCED TO ABORT. I BELIEVE THAT THE GND CTLR GOT INTERESTED IN OUR CONVERSATION AND DID NOT COORD WITH TWR BEFORE ISSUING US CLRNC TO CROSS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.