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Attributes | |
ACN | 1420148 |
Time | |
Date | 201701 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | NCT.TRACON |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft Low Wing 1 Eng Retractable Gear |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Approach |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Person 2 | |
Function | Coordinator |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 5 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Inflight Event / Encounter CFTT / CFIT |
Narrative:
Aircraft X checked on my frequency at 6000 feet. After giving control instructions to other aircraft I came back to aircraft X; issued the oak altimeter; and asked him his requested altitude. He responded that his last assigned altitude was 6000 feet. I then asked him what his requested altitude was and he responded that he would take whatever altitude I could give him. I replied that I can give him anything he wants. He then stated how about 3000 feet. I responded that altitude was his discretion. I handed aircraft X off to the next sector. At that point aircraft X was descending out of 4000 feet in a 4000 foot minimum vectoring altitude (MVA). He continued to descend through a 5000 foot MVA down to 3000 feet. The receiving controller did not catch the MVA violation. During this entire incident I did not register that aircraft X was IFR and I believed that he was VFR the entire time I was working him.the low altitude alert did not go off either in the 4000 foot MVA or the 5000 foot MVA. I would recommend increased diligence of data blocks during busy sessions; and if busy ask for a hand-off.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NCT controllers reported thinking an IFR aircraft was VFR and allowed it to proceed on its own navigation below the MVA.
Narrative: Aircraft X checked on my frequency at 6000 feet. After giving control instructions to other aircraft I came back to Aircraft X; issued the OAK altimeter; and asked him his requested altitude. He responded that his last assigned altitude was 6000 feet. I then asked him what his requested altitude was and he responded that he would take whatever altitude I could give him. I replied that I can give him anything he wants. He then stated how about 3000 feet. I responded that altitude was his discretion. I handed Aircraft X off to the next sector. At that point Aircraft X was descending out of 4000 feet in a 4000 foot Minimum Vectoring Altitude (MVA). He continued to descend through a 5000 foot MVA down to 3000 feet. The receiving controller did not catch the MVA violation. During this entire incident I did not register that Aircraft X was IFR and I believed that he was VFR the entire time I was working him.The low altitude alert did not go off either in the 4000 foot MVA or the 5000 foot MVA. I would recommend increased diligence of data blocks during busy sessions; and if busy ask for a hand-off.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.