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Attributes | |
ACN | 1428573 |
Time | |
Date | 201703 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | F11.TRACON |
State Reference | FL |
Environment | |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Large Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Large Transport |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Person 2 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Flying |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Altitude Excursion From Assigned Altitude Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
We were level at FL190. Our call sign was air carrier xxy; several times the controller called us air carrier xzy. Also air carrier xzy answered calls to us several times. After a couple of wrong call signs the controller called us by our correct call sign and cleared us to cross 40 miles south of bairn intersection at 14000 feet. Both the first officer and I heard her say 14000 feet and that's what I read back when I acknowledged the clearance. As we were starting our descent out of FL190 the controller gave us a frequency change. I tried to check in on the new frequency twice with no answer. I returned to the old frequency and when I told the controller I had no reply on the new frequency she asked what altitude we were going to. By this time we were descending through about 15500. I told her we were going to 14000 and that's what I had read back to her when we got the clearance. She said it was suppose to be 17000 feet; but it was ok; and said to just level at 14000. This event occurred due to confusion on the radio. The controller calling us by the wrong call sign and the other plane answering our calls added to the problem. I think the controller had called us air carrier xzy instead of air carrier xxy and when she finally got the call sign right she mixed up the 3 and 2 again and cleared us to 14000 instead of 17000. Then when I read back 14000 as our clearance she did not catch that I didn't say 17000 like she had meant.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: An air carrier on frequency with a company similar call sign was called incorrectly by ATC which confused everyone. Finally; with a frequency change; the crew descending to 14;000 was told their clearance was to 17;000; but that crew never heard 17;000.
Narrative: We were level at FL190. Our call sign was Air carrier XXY; several times the controller called us Air carrier XZY. Also Air carrier XZY answered calls to us several times. After a couple of wrong call signs the controller called us by our correct call sign and cleared us to cross 40 miles south of Bairn intersection at 14000 feet. Both the FO and I heard her say 14000 feet and that's what I read back when I acknowledged the clearance. As we were starting our descent out of FL190 the controller gave us a frequency change. I tried to check in on the new frequency twice with no answer. I returned to the old frequency and when I told the controller I had no reply on the new frequency she asked what altitude we were going to. By this time we were descending through about 15500. I told her we were going to 14000 and that's what I had read back to her when we got the clearance. She said it was suppose to be 17000 feet; but it was ok; and said to just level at 14000. This event occurred due to confusion on the radio. The controller calling us by the wrong call sign and the other plane answering our calls added to the problem. I think the controller had called us Air carrier XZY instead of Air carrier XXY and when she finally got the call sign right she mixed up the 3 and 2 again and cleared us to 14000 instead of 17000. Then when I read back 14000 as our clearance she did not catch that I didn't say 17000 like she had meant.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.