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Attributes | |
ACN | 1436382 |
Time | |
Date | 201703 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | P50.TRACON |
State Reference | AZ |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Light Transport |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Approach |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 5 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
We were [doing] a procedure where we land as many aircraft as possible on runway 26 to help out the tower from having to stop departures and cross the departure runway for aircraft that land runway 25L. This wasn't a causal factor. I had aircraft X on a northbound heading; assigned 040. As he was descending through 050; I noticed a target that appeared to have departed southbound; climbing out of 032. I instructed aircraft X to stop his descent and issued the traffic. The unidentified aircraft's flight path would take him just to aircraft X's left side. Aircraft X stopped at 045 and was looking for the traffic. At this point; the aircraft continued a climb and aircraft X responded to a TCAS RA. No separation was lost; and the unidentified aircraft stopped the climb at 038. Aircraft X advised he was climbing. There was another aircraft that the other final had; aircraft Y; that was going to land on the south side. I was going to go under aircraft Y with aircraft X; he was going to stay on top. I gave aircraft X the traffic and he advised me that he would stop at 050; and thanked me for the traffic. Both aircraft landed without further incident.this happens all the time. Aircraft depart ffz and skirt the bravo; which goes down to 040. Given the proximity to phx; it's imperative to get those [inbound aircraft] down so they can make the descent to land at the airport. We need a new bravo layout. This happens way too many times. The bravo needs to be changed and hopefully [reporting] will be the vehicle for which it is intended.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Phoenix TRACON Controller reported problems with the Phoenix Class Bravo and VFR aircraft close to it which causes arrival problems.
Narrative: We were [doing] a procedure where we land as many aircraft as possible on Runway 26 to help out the tower from having to stop departures and cross the departure runway for aircraft that land Runway 25L. This wasn't a causal factor. I had Aircraft X on a northbound heading; assigned 040. As he was descending through 050; I noticed a target that appeared to have departed southbound; climbing out of 032. I instructed Aircraft X to stop his descent and issued the traffic. The unidentified aircraft's flight path would take him just to Aircraft X's left side. Aircraft X stopped at 045 and was looking for the traffic. At this point; the aircraft continued a climb and Aircraft X responded to a TCAS RA. No separation was lost; and the unidentified aircraft stopped the climb at 038. Aircraft X advised he was climbing. There was another aircraft that the other final had; Aircraft Y; that was going to land on the south side. I was going to go under Aircraft Y with Aircraft X; he was going to stay on top. I gave Aircraft X the traffic and he advised me that he would stop at 050; and thanked me for the traffic. Both aircraft landed without further incident.This happens all the time. Aircraft depart FFZ and skirt the Bravo; which goes down to 040. Given the proximity to PHX; it's imperative to get those [inbound aircraft] down so they can make the descent to land at the airport. We need a new Bravo layout. This happens way too many times. The Bravo needs to be changed and hopefully [reporting] will be the vehicle for which it is intended.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.