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Pilot of atx flew passenger from schedule 135 flight using the commuter operators canned flight plan and call sign. Ramp checked by aci who questioned his lack of qualifications.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 143885 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199005 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sea |
| State Reference | WA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff cruise other landing other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 165 flight time total : 3350 flight time type : 200 |
| ASRS Report | 143885 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government other |
| Function | observation : air carrier inspector |
| Qualification | other other : other |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
This pilot, employed by a 135 on demand operator, was assigned to fly a trip for a regional scheduled 135 commuter air carrier. The flight originated at an uncontrolled airfield and terminated at a TCA primary airport 75 mi away. Upon arrival this pilot was ramp-checked by an FAA inspector who was himself not sure of the legality of the following items: my lack of training by the commuter air carrier, my lack of IOE by the commuter air carrier, my carrying of their ticketed passenger, and my use of their canned flight plan/call sign my lack of their company operations manual (I had may company's manual). I have been unable to locate in the far's any regulations relating to the above questions, nor have my company's superiors or our local FAA FSDO been able to ascertain if a 135 charter operator can fly a trip for a commuter air carrier (regional airline). From our standpoint this was an on-demand flight we having been called 5 hours previously. I met my company's operating requirements.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF ATX FLEW PASSENGER FROM SCHEDULE 135 FLT USING THE COMMUTER OPERATORS CANNED FLT PLAN AND CALL SIGN. RAMP CHECKED BY ACI WHO QUESTIONED HIS LACK OF QUALIFICATIONS.
Narrative: THIS PLT, EMPLOYED BY A 135 ON DEMAND OPERATOR, WAS ASSIGNED TO FLY A TRIP FOR A REGIONAL SCHEDULED 135 COMMUTER ACR. THE FLT ORIGINATED AT AN UNCONTROLLED AIRFIELD AND TERMINATED AT A TCA PRIMARY ARPT 75 MI AWAY. UPON ARR THIS PLT WAS RAMP-CHKED BY AN FAA INSPECTOR WHO WAS HIMSELF NOT SURE OF THE LEGALITY OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS: MY LACK OF TRNING BY THE COMMUTER ACR, MY LACK OF IOE BY THE COMMUTER ACR, MY CARRYING OF THEIR TICKETED PAX, AND MY USE OF THEIR CANNED FLT PLAN/CALL SIGN MY LACK OF THEIR COMPANY OPS MANUAL (I HAD MAY COMPANY'S MANUAL). I HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO LOCATE IN THE FAR'S ANY REGS RELATING TO THE ABOVE QUESTIONS, NOR HAVE MY COMPANY'S SUPERIORS OR OUR LCL FAA FSDO BEEN ABLE TO ASCERTAIN IF A 135 CHARTER OPERATOR CAN FLY A TRIP FOR A COMMUTER ACR (REGIONAL AIRLINE). FROM OUR STANDPOINT THIS WAS AN ON-DEMAND FLT WE HAVING BEEN CALLED 5 HRS PREVIOUSLY. I MET MY COMPANY'S OPERATING REQUIREMENTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.