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Attributes | |
ACN | 1440602 |
Time | |
Date | 201704 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZBAA.Airport |
State Reference | FO |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B747 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 250 Flight Crew Type 2294 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
Departing runway 19 ladix 8D; after making initial turn to 098 and leveling at 900 meters by ATC (LNAV/VNAV engaged 250 knots in the speed window); I turned on the center autopilot. We were given a climb clearance to I believe 5;400 meters. [I] advised ATC unable altitude restriction at [intersection] AA282; they advised no problem. Then at [intersection] AA283 in LNAV 250 knots in the speed window we made a climbing right turn to 186; at which time ATC gave us an immediate turn to 210 and asked why we made a wide turn at AA283. I believe he suggested possible encroachment on military airspace. The turn was made on complete auto-flight at 250 knots; which after thinking back I did see the turn arc was wide; just how far I don't know. I advised ATC that we made a standard turn at AA283 and that seemed to satisfy them. As with some other departure procedures such as the ladix 8E; they should not be allowed on the 747; due to the [occasional] total lack of communications. We have brand new first officers in the right seat and very behind. I fly out of zbaa sometimes 2 times a month and I know not to accept the ladix 8E but in this case I accepted the ladix 8D not foreseeing the problem with the turn radius at AA283. Every time I think I have seen it all; something new comes along. I always turn on the autopilot soon after takeoff so I can monitor better. I can't emphasize enough with brand new people to the 747 and china this can be challenging at best; the only time I seem to write a [report] is departing zbaa; and I should have written more.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B747 Captain reported ATC advised them of a track deviation departing ZBAA.
Narrative: Departing runway 19 LADIX 8D; after making initial turn to 098 and leveling at 900 meters by ATC (LNAV/VNAV engaged 250 knots in the speed window); I turned on the center autopilot. We were given a climb clearance to I believe 5;400 meters. [I] advised ATC unable altitude restriction at [intersection] AA282; they advised no problem. Then at [intersection] AA283 in LNAV 250 knots in the speed window we made a climbing right turn to 186; at which time ATC gave us an immediate turn to 210 and asked why we made a wide turn at AA283. I believe he suggested possible encroachment on military airspace. The turn was made on complete auto-flight at 250 knots; which after thinking back I did see the turn arc was wide; just how far I don't know. I advised ATC that we made a standard turn at AA283 and that seemed to satisfy them. As with some other departure procedures such as the LADIX 8E; they should not be allowed on the 747; due to the [occasional] total lack of communications. We have brand new First Officers in the right seat and very behind. I fly out of ZBAA sometimes 2 times a month and I know not to accept the LADIX 8E but in this case I accepted the LADIX 8D not foreseeing the problem with the turn radius at AA283. Every time I think I have seen it all; something new comes along. I always turn on the autopilot soon after takeoff so I can monitor better. I can't emphasize enough with brand new people to the 747 and China this can be challenging at best; the only time I seem to write a [report] is departing ZBAA; and I should have written more.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.