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Attributes | |
ACN | 1443849 |
Time | |
Date | 201704 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | SEA.Tower |
State Reference | WA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | A321 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Local |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 1 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Speed All Types |
Narrative:
It was an overcast day with ceilings too low to do pilot to pilot visual separation; but I could still see aircraft some ways out to achieve tower visual separation. Departed aircraft X (A321) and then next in line departed aircraft Y with what would normally be plenty of space to achieve 3 miles of separation. Aircraft X's speed on departure was not uncommonly slow immediately off the departure end; but then did not accelerate at all which is not typical. They stayed constant at about 170 knots.when aircraft Y tagged up I saw that there was not going to be 3 miles of separation immediately; but still had some room to achieve tower visual separation. So I was still thinking aircraft X should be speeding up at any moment and that 3 miles of separation would develop before I lost visual. I held on to aircraft Y and was going to wait for required separation to develop. I then pretty quickly realized that aircraft X was showing no signs of speeding up and decided to cap aircraft Y's altitude. At the time aircraft Y was showing either 2400 feet or 2500 feet and I instructed them to maintain 3000 feet. In response aircraft Y said that he would descend to 3000 feet as he was actually at 3300 feet at the time. I observed its mode C was indicating him at 2500 feet. At that point my local assist asked if I was going to leave them at 3000 feet and ship them to departure. I said yes and he called over to coordinate it. During the attempt to coordinate the departure controller was combative; unprofessional; and completely unhelpful and made no attempt to maybe help resolve the situation. After coordination had been made I shipped aircraft Y to departure.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SEA Local Controller reported an A321 climbed at a slower than normal and expected airspeed resulting in the subsequent departure overtaking the A321.
Narrative: It was an overcast day with ceilings too low to do pilot to pilot Visual Separation; but I could still see aircraft some ways out to achieve Tower Visual Separation. Departed Aircraft X (A321) and then next in line departed Aircraft Y with what would normally be plenty of space to achieve 3 miles of separation. Aircraft X's speed on departure was not uncommonly slow immediately off the departure end; but then did not accelerate at all which is not typical. They stayed constant at about 170 knots.When Aircraft Y tagged up I saw that there was not going to be 3 miles of separation immediately; but still had some room to achieve Tower Visual Separation. So I was still thinking Aircraft X should be speeding up at any moment and that 3 miles of separation would develop before I lost Visual. I held on to Aircraft Y and was going to wait for required separation to develop. I then pretty quickly realized that Aircraft X was showing no signs of speeding up and decided to cap Aircraft Y's altitude. At the time Aircraft Y was showing either 2400 feet or 2500 feet and I instructed them to maintain 3000 feet. In response Aircraft Y said that he would descend to 3000 feet as he was actually at 3300 feet at the time. I observed its Mode C was indicating him at 2500 feet. At that point my Local Assist asked if I was going to leave them at 3000 feet and ship them to departure. I said yes and he called over to coordinate it. During the attempt to coordinate the departure controller was combative; unprofessional; and completely unhelpful and made no attempt to maybe help resolve the situation. After coordination had been made I shipped Aircraft Y to departure.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.