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Attributes | |
ACN | 1443986 |
Time | |
Date | 201704 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | DFW.Airport |
State Reference | TX |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 170/175 ER/LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Altitude Overshoot Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
While climbing through 8000 feet ATC issued a traffic advisory for aircraft that would be leveling at 11;000; 1;000 feet above our assigned altitude. I looked at vsi and noticed that we were climbing at about 2600 feet/min and advised the first officer (first officer) that he need to reduce the climb rate.at 8700 feet egpws issued a traffic TA. At 8;900 feet I told the first officer that he needed to level off at 10;000 and that there was 1;000 feet left to climb. Aircraft was climbing at 2;000 feet/min. First officer acknowledged callout.at about 9;500 egpws issued an RA for 'monitor vertical speed.' first officer put the aircraft flight director into the green bars and held the aircraft steady reducing climb rate to about 1;000 feet/min. At 9;900 feet told the first officer he need to level off now as his climb rate was increasing. At 10;050 aircraft was still climbing with vs increasing. Verified the first officer's altimeter was indicating the same at which point I told the first officer was flying through his assigned altitude and needed to stop the climb.at 10;100 I took positive action on the flight controls and pushed the nose of the aircraft down to arrest the climb and return to the assigned altitude. Aircraft reached a max altitude of 10;200 feet.first officer stated that he was solely focused on the RA advisory command bars and maintaining the flight director in the correct portion.fixation on RA commands and loss of awareness of current altitude by the first officer. Lack of first officers total time in high performance aircraft.more complicated TA/RA simulator training for new hires that simulate actual conditions of flight with assigned level offs. Current training focuses on other aircraft making the mistake and does not address how a crew member may put the aircraft into this situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMB175 Captain reported he had to take control of the aircraft during climb out when the First Officer failed to level off for traffic above their altitude.
Narrative: While climbing through 8000 feet ATC issued a traffic advisory for aircraft that would be leveling at 11;000; 1;000 feet above our assigned altitude. I looked at VSI and noticed that we were climbing at about 2600 feet/min and advised the First Officer (FO) that he need to reduce the climb rate.At 8700 feet EGPWS issued a traffic TA. At 8;900 feet I told the FO that he needed to level off at 10;000 and that there was 1;000 feet left to climb. Aircraft was climbing at 2;000 feet/min. FO acknowledged callout.At about 9;500 EGPWS issued an RA for 'Monitor Vertical Speed.' FO put the aircraft flight director into the green bars and held the aircraft steady reducing climb rate to about 1;000 feet/min. At 9;900 feet told the FO he need to level off now as his climb rate was increasing. At 10;050 aircraft was still climbing with VS increasing. Verified the FO's altimeter was indicating the same at which point I told the FO was flying through his assigned altitude and needed to stop the climb.At 10;100 I took positive action on the flight controls and pushed the nose of the aircraft down to arrest the climb and return to the assigned altitude. Aircraft reached a max altitude of 10;200 feet.FO stated that he was solely focused on the RA advisory command bars and maintaining the flight director in the correct portion.Fixation on RA commands and loss of awareness of current altitude by the FO. Lack of First Officers total time in High Performance Aircraft.More complicated TA/RA simulator training for new hires that simulate actual conditions of flight with assigned level offs. Current training focuses on other aircraft making the mistake and does not address how a crew member may put the aircraft into this situation.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.