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Attributes | |
ACN | 1447009 |
Time | |
Date | 201705 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 900 (CRJ900) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Not Flying Check Pilot |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Speed All Types Inflight Event / Encounter Unstabilized Approach |
Narrative:
While conducting operational experience on a new upgrade student on his first day an unstable approach was executed. ATC left him a little high and then cleared us for a visual approach. The upgrade student brought out spoilers to full without power being back at idle (engines were spooled into mid 50% N1). The airplane was configured to flaps 8; 20 then gear down. Autopilot was disconnected while on a 7 mile modified base to final. The aircraft was on glideslope; but the upgrade student was too fast to bring flaps out to 30. The airplane came through 1;000 AGL at flaps 20 gear down and full spoiler deployed. At this point I told him he was not slowing because his power was not at idle and he was essentially powering through his spoilers. Also I was expecting him to initiate a go around due to the unstable approach. Power went to idle and flaps 30 and 45 were called for and configured. I did not call for the go around because I wanted my upgrade student to realize that we were unstable inside a 1;000 AGL and make the call to go miss himself.instead; the approach was continued with the airplane being fully configured on speed and stable by around 500-600 AGL. Landing was standard and satisfactory. Upon reaching the gate I debriefed him on the event and told him that inexperienced first officers may not make the call to go around when the captain is pilot flying in an unstable approach event. He was told that in the future in that situation a go around must be performed. I used it as a learning tool and also to discuss the safety program.cause: unstable approach; not fully configured; over flap 45 speed and with spoilers out at 1;000 AGL.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CRJ900 Check Captain reported the First Officer continued an unstable approach to a landing contrary to company policy.
Narrative: While conducting Operational Experience on a new upgrade student on his first day an unstable approach was executed. ATC left him a little high and then cleared us for a visual approach. The upgrade student brought out spoilers to full without power being back at idle (engines were spooled into mid 50% N1). The airplane was configured to flaps 8; 20 then gear down. Autopilot was disconnected while on a 7 mile modified base to final. The aircraft was on glideslope; but the upgrade student was too fast to bring flaps out to 30. The airplane came through 1;000 AGL at flaps 20 gear down and full spoiler deployed. At this point I told him he was not slowing because his power was not at idle and he was essentially powering through his spoilers. Also I was expecting him to initiate a go around due to the unstable approach. Power went to idle and flaps 30 and 45 were called for and configured. I did not call for the go around because I wanted my upgrade student to realize that we were unstable inside a 1;000 AGL and make the call to go miss himself.Instead; the approach was continued with the airplane being fully configured on speed and stable by around 500-600 AGL. Landing was standard and satisfactory. Upon reaching the gate I debriefed him on the event and told him that inexperienced First Officers may not make the call to go around when the Captain is pilot flying in an unstable approach event. He was told that in the future in that situation a go around must be performed. I used it as a learning tool and also to discuss the safety program.Cause: unstable approach; not fully configured; over flap 45 speed and with spoilers out at 1;000 AGL.
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