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B737 captain described the lda-a runway 22 approach at lga as 'disorienting' because of the 10 degree offset during a VMC approach.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1450725 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201705 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | LGA.Airport |
| State Reference | NY |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B737 Next Generation Undifferentiated |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
| Route In Use | Other LDA-A Runway 22 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 178 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | No Specific Anomaly Occurred All Types |
Narrative:
This was our second time into lga that day. Weather was excellent VFR all day; and lga was using runway 22 for arrivals. First time through; the approach was visual; backed up by the ILS 22; as we do many times. On this flight; lga was advertising the lda-a to 22; which neither of us had ever done before. The approach frequency was; as usual; very congested; so I was not able to ask why they were utilizing the lda instead of the ILS. This approach is; of course; a circling approach. The weather was well above 1000/3; and we verified in the fom that we are indeed approved to fly lda approaches so I am confident that we were legal.my concern is that flying this approach was 'disorienting' because of the 10 degree offset; and the fact that there are no published descent rates with the corresponding ground speeds. It just doesn't seem to 'fit' with our procedures. I really wanted to turn and line up with the runway centerline; but had to fly through to join the lda. Looking back; had the weather been closer to 1000/3; I don't think I would have been comfortable flying this approach.we could have told approach we were unable to fly that approach; but I couldn't predict my level of discomfort until we actually flew it. Could jeppesen publish an lda 22; with corresponding descent rates that would more closely align with our procedures?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 Captain described the LDA-A Runway 22 Approach at LGA as 'disorienting' because of the 10 degree offset during a VMC approach.
Narrative: This was our second time into LGA that day. Weather was excellent VFR all day; and LGA was using Runway 22 for arrivals. First time through; the approach was visual; backed up by the ILS 22; as we do many times. On this flight; LGA was advertising the LDA-A to 22; which neither of us had ever done before. The approach frequency was; as usual; very congested; so I was not able to ask why they were utilizing the LDA instead of the ILS. This approach is; of course; a circling approach. The weather was well above 1000/3; and we verified in the FOM that we are indeed approved to fly LDA approaches so I am confident that we were legal.My concern is that flying this approach was 'disorienting' because of the 10 degree offset; and the fact that there are no published descent rates with the corresponding ground speeds. It just doesn't seem to 'fit' with our procedures. I really wanted to turn and line up with the runway centerline; but had to fly through to join the LDA. Looking back; had the weather been closer to 1000/3; I don't think I would have been comfortable flying this approach.We could have told Approach we were unable to fly that approach; but I couldn't predict my level of discomfort until we actually flew it. Could Jeppesen publish an LDA 22; with corresponding descent rates that would more closely align with our procedures?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.