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Attributes | |
ACN | 1461781 |
Time | |
Date | 201706 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | MSP.Airport |
State Reference | MN |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | STAR NITZR 3 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 338 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Other / Unknown Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
Because of weather we were moved from the bluem arrival over to the NITZR3. I am writing this report because even under the most ideal circumstances; the vertical profile of the runway 35 procedure is a challenge (specifically nitzr 280 kts/12000A continuing to shild 230 kts/9000). The speed and altitude restrictions make this section right near the edge of the aircraft's capability. We were in a moderately loaded 737-800 with no real adverse wind or other variable and it still required intervention to comply with the arrival as written. More weight or a tailwind would surely make this arrival even more difficult.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 Captain reported challenges flying the MSP NITZR 3 RNAV to Runway 35 with speed and altitude constraints at NITZR and SHILD. The 230 kts/9;000 ft at SHILD is about 33 NM south of MSP.
Narrative: Because of weather we were moved from the BLUEM Arrival over to the NITZR3. I am writing this report because even under the most ideal circumstances; the vertical profile of the Runway 35 procedure is a challenge (specifically NITZR 280 kts/12000A continuing to SHILD 230 kts/9000). The speed and altitude restrictions make this section right near the edge of the aircraft's capability. We were in a moderately loaded 737-800 with no real adverse wind or other variable and it still required intervention to comply with the arrival as written. More weight or a tailwind would surely make this arrival even more difficult.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.