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Attributes | |
ACN | 1464545 |
Time | |
Date | 201707 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | HCF.TRACON |
State Reference | HI |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Person 1 | |
Function | Departure Approach |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 18 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Enroute Approach Departure |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 18 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Every day; the tmu assigns flow control. The problem is; the tmu doesn't always tell the controllers they are assigning flow control; nor tell the controllers when there is no longer flow control. We need to constantly look up at the ace/ids (automated surface observing system controller equipment-information display system) to see if flow control is now on the board. We will receive our relief briefing; and there is no flow control listed; then all of a sudden; flow control will pop up on the board; the tmu will not tell us that they are having us issue flow control. And; they will just remove the flow control and not tell the controllers; and we are still vectoring aircraft; assuming flow control is still in effect.a specific instance is today; I sat down; and was told (and it was noted on the ace/ids) that there was flow control from xa:00 - xa:45. The R7 controller was giving me at least 10 miles in trail with all aircraft to comply with the 10 miles in trail and 250 knots at bambo. At xa:08; I looked up; and there was no longer flow control listed on the ace/ids. If the tmu is going to cancel flow control in the ace/ids; they need to tell us there is now no longer flow control into honolulu. This is an ongoing problem. They do this daily; and it really should be part of the job to tell the controllers; if they put in flow control.if we do not know there is flow control; we cannot issue the flow control. And; conversely; if they cancel the flow control; they need to let the controllers know; because we are vectoring aircraft excessively for no reason; other than the laziness of the tmu to tell us flow control has been canceled.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Honolulu Control Facility Controller reported that the Traffic Managers do not advise the Controllers when flow is needed or canceled verbally.
Narrative: Every day; the TMU assigns flow control. The problem is; the TMU doesn't always tell the controllers they are assigning flow control; nor tell the controllers when there is no longer flow control. We need to constantly look up at the ACE/IDS (Automated Surface Observing System Controller Equipment-Information Display System) to see if flow control is now on the board. We will receive our relief briefing; and there is no flow control listed; then all of a sudden; flow control will pop up on the board; the TMU will not tell us that they are having us issue flow control. And; they will just remove the flow control and not tell the controllers; and we are still vectoring aircraft; assuming flow control is still in effect.A specific instance is today; I sat down; and was told (and it was noted on the ACE/IDS) that there was flow control from XA:00 - XA:45. The R7 controller was giving me at least 10 miles in trail with all aircraft to comply with the 10 miles in trail and 250 knots at BAMBO. At XA:08; I looked up; and there was no longer flow control listed on the ACE/IDS. If the TMU is going to cancel flow control in the ACE/IDS; they need to tell us there is now no longer flow control into Honolulu. This is an ongoing problem. They do this daily; and it really should be part of the job to tell the controllers; if they put in flow control.If we do not know there is flow control; we cannot issue the flow control. And; conversely; if they cancel the flow control; they need to let the controllers know; because we are vectoring aircraft excessively for no reason; other than the laziness of the TMU to tell us flow control has been canceled.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.