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Attributes | |
ACN | 147056 |
Time | |
Date | 199005 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ssi |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sjc |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8700 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 147056 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While climbing out of ssi en route to clt we had to take evasive action in order to miss a helicopter. We were VFR attempting to get an IFR clearance. The other pilot had called sav approach. They had told us to contact jax center for clearance. We were calling jacksonville center when I saw the helicopter directly ahead at approximately 1/4 mi. I turned at 45 degree bank and increased our climb rate from 2000 FPM to 4000 FPM. We would have collided if neither of us had changed course but we missed by approximately 500'. Our department has changed our directives to require an IFR clearance prior to takeoff if at all possible. This would not have happened on an IFR clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CPR JET CLIMBING VFR WHILE WAITING FOR AN IFR CLRNC HAS NMAC WITH A MIL HELI AT 4000'.
Narrative: WHILE CLBING OUT OF SSI ENRTE TO CLT WE HAD TO TAKE EVASIVE ACTION IN ORDER TO MISS A HELI. WE WERE VFR ATTEMPTING TO GET AN IFR CLRNC. THE OTHER PLT HAD CALLED SAV APCH. THEY HAD TOLD US TO CONTACT JAX CTR FOR CLRNC. WE WERE CALLING JACKSONVILLE CTR WHEN I SAW THE HELI DIRECTLY AHEAD AT APPROX 1/4 MI. I TURNED AT 45 DEG BANK AND INCREASED OUR CLB RATE FROM 2000 FPM TO 4000 FPM. WE WOULD HAVE COLLIDED IF NEITHER OF US HAD CHANGED COURSE BUT WE MISSED BY APPROX 500'. OUR DEPT HAS CHANGED OUR DIRECTIVES TO REQUIRE AN IFR CLRNC PRIOR TO TKOF IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED ON AN IFR CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.