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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1480444 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201709 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Cruise |
| Route In Use | None |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Bonanza 35 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Cruise |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Flying Single Pilot |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Instrument |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 200 Flight Crew Total 2063 Flight Crew Type 400 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Conflict NMAC Deviation - Procedural Other / Unknown |
| Miss Distance | Horizontal 0 Vertical 20 |
Narrative:
After briefing the flight on the ground; a friend and I decided to formation fly to a nearby airport for cheap fuel. We discussed direction; speed; and separation. During formation flight we agreed I would approach and fly at the 4 o'clock position of the lead ship and we would then fly a 120 heading. Approaching the lead ship from the rear right quadrant; we communicated on 122.75. I was 10 knots faster than he. I decreased power and added pitch to slow; which caused my left wing to block my view of his airplane as I climbed. On speed now; but view still blocked; I chose to maintain my current; higher altitude until I got him back in sight. Seconds later; I saw his ship nearly directly under me. He got me in sight at the same time. I put the airplane into a climbing right turn; while he descended away.from this; I have learned that flying in formation solo can be difficult with all of the blind spots in an airplane. Communication is also crucial. I should have voiced my concern right when I lost sight of his airplane. He should have done the same.we briefed flying at 110 knots; and when he stated he was doing 100 knots; I should have broken off and rejoined at proper speed rather than attempt to adjust my speed while joining.all in all; formation flight is overrated in my opinion. There is a lot of hazard associated for such little benefit.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA-28 pilot reported losing visual contact of lead aircraft during airborne join-up; resulting in loss of separation.
Narrative: After briefing the flight on the ground; a friend and I decided to formation fly to a nearby airport for cheap fuel. We discussed direction; speed; and separation. During formation flight we agreed I would approach and fly at the 4 o'clock position of the lead ship and we would then fly a 120 heading. Approaching the lead ship from the rear right quadrant; we communicated on 122.75. I was 10 knots faster than he. I decreased power and added pitch to slow; which caused my left wing to block my view of his airplane as I climbed. On speed now; but view still blocked; I chose to maintain my current; higher altitude until I got him back in sight. Seconds later; I saw his ship nearly directly under me. He got me in sight at the same time. I put the airplane into a climbing right turn; while he descended away.From this; I have learned that flying in formation solo can be difficult with all of the blind spots in an airplane. Communication is also crucial. I should have voiced my concern right when I lost sight of his airplane. He should have done the same.We briefed flying at 110 knots; and when he stated he was doing 100 knots; I should have broken off and rejoined at proper speed rather than attempt to adjust my speed while joining.All in all; formation flight is overrated in my opinion. There is a lot of hazard associated for such little benefit.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.