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Attributes | |
ACN | 148379 |
Time | |
Date | 199006 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord tower : spi |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute airway : ord |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 17500 |
ASRS Report | 148379 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight attendant : on duty |
Qualification | other other : other |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
Air carrier X was descending into ord for approach to runway 14R. There were 2 voices working approach control. Controller voice #1 cleared us from 8000 to 7000', then gave us a turn to 320 degrees. All clrncs were properly read back. At approximately 7400' controller voice #2 advised we were only cleared to 8000' and repeated the turn to 320 degrees. Descend was stopped at 7350' and climbed back to 8000'. No traffic issued by approach control and none seen by cockpit crew. After landing F/a said we were 'very close' to another aircraft Y. Approach control was called by phone. The supervisor on duty during the incident said it was a training error on the part of ATC. He said the aircraft we were close to had us visually during the entire episode, and that we never came within near miss or violation parameters. Recommend no training during peak traffic periods.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X CLEARED TO OCCUPIED ALT. OPERATIONAL DEVIATION.
Narrative: ACR X WAS DSNDING INTO ORD FOR APCH TO RWY 14R. THERE WERE 2 VOICES WORKING APCH CTL. CTLR VOICE #1 CLRED US FROM 8000 TO 7000', THEN GAVE US A TURN TO 320 DEGS. ALL CLRNCS WERE PROPERLY READ BACK. AT APPROX 7400' CTLR VOICE #2 ADVISED WE WERE ONLY CLRED TO 8000' AND REPEATED THE TURN TO 320 DEGS. DSND WAS STOPPED AT 7350' AND CLBED BACK TO 8000'. NO TFC ISSUED BY APCH CTL AND NONE SEEN BY COCKPIT CREW. AFTER LNDG F/A SAID WE WERE 'VERY CLOSE' TO ANOTHER ACFT Y. APCH CTL WAS CALLED BY PHONE. THE SUPVR ON DUTY DURING THE INCIDENT SAID IT WAS A TRNING ERROR ON THE PART OF ATC. HE SAID THE ACFT WE WERE CLOSE TO HAD US VISUALLY DURING THE ENTIRE EPISODE, AND THAT WE NEVER CAME WITHIN NEAR MISS OR VIOLATION PARAMETERS. RECOMMEND NO TRNING DURING PEAK TFC PERIODS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.