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Attributes | |
ACN | 148421 |
Time | |
Date | 199006 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sea |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2800 msl bound upper : 2800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sea tower : sea |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : radar |
ASRS Report | 148421 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : non radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Tower launched medium large transport X and medium large transport Y. Medium large transport Y was 2 mi behind medium large transport X on initial contact and at same altitude. I asked pilot if he was in clouds. Pilot replied, 'affirmative.' I turned medium large transport Y away from medium large transport X. I informed supervisor immediately. He looked at scope, called tower and said, 'runnin' a little tight, guys.' no further action taken or documented to my knowledge. I talked to tower controller later and he stated, 'you do it a hundred times and it works.' I replied, 'it almost always does,' but working at absolute minimums occasionally causes problems.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATCT LCL CTLR FAILED TO PROVIDE STANDARD SEPARATION BEWEEN 2 DEPARTING ACFT.
Narrative: TWR LAUNCHED MLG X AND MLG Y. MLG Y WAS 2 MI BEHIND MLG X ON INITIAL CONTACT AND AT SAME ALT. I ASKED PLT IF HE WAS IN CLOUDS. PLT REPLIED, 'AFFIRMATIVE.' I TURNED MLG Y AWAY FROM MLG X. I INFORMED SUPVR IMMEDIATELY. HE LOOKED AT SCOPE, CALLED TWR AND SAID, 'RUNNIN' A LITTLE TIGHT, GUYS.' NO FURTHER ACTION TAKEN OR DOCUMENTED TO MY KNOWLEDGE. I TALKED TO TWR CTLR LATER AND HE STATED, 'YOU DO IT A HUNDRED TIMES AND IT WORKS.' I REPLIED, 'IT ALMOST ALWAYS DOES,' BUT WORKING AT ABSOLUTE MINIMUMS OCCASIONALLY CAUSES PROBS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.